RubberBullets

Youd be surprised how many ways the fd has found to finess our way into homes in a pinch. The emergency release on a garage door (windows or not) is one of them. Youd be surprised how easy plastic sashed windows are to make your **** as well with the right tools

If Zimmerman started the fight, his argument of self defense would be baseless. He would in turn be the aggressor. Without that all of the above mentioned is what the case is based on. Since all of the testimony of the argument will be that of the guy on trial for murder, I think his account will certainly be in favor of his innocence. So yes, lack of a witness as to who started a fight will be a MAJOR factor in the acquittal of George Zimmerman whether the witness would have proved his innocence or stated the contrary.

What will ultimately get Z's acquittal will be the lack of witness during the events leading up to and including the confrontation prior to the final moments of the fight. The lead investigator himself felt compelled that a charge was necessary given the facts of the case. Leaving the vehicle certainly played a part of the events that occurred. TM did not approach him inside his vehicle, he left with the strict intent to intervene and interrogate a person who apparently was doing nothing other then look a certain way in his accuser's eye. I guess we can argue all we want over who was right and wrong, but since there were no witnesses as to who started the fight, there should be further scrutiny as to his guilt or innocence. I really am just tired of seeing the blatant support one way or another without the facts. Of course I might have found myself emotionally tied up and passing judgement in the first month, but even now it seems like there is a court of public opinion with information still being omitted from news sources. Its in the courts, where I think it should be. Allow our justice system to hash it out.

Im not speculating whether or not he had been in his right to defend himself being in fear for his life, but if he reported the incident and stayed within the safety of his own vehicle, none of this would have happened. While there is no law requiring him to standfast and not do anything, or even following dispatchers recommendation for that matter, leaving his vehicle set the wheels in motion for the events that followed. He acknowledged there was a sketchy situation where law enforcement was warranted, why would you further involve yourself after that decision has been made. Perhaps invoked the argument was a bad descriptive.

The reason why gun advocates get just as bad of a rap from this as the folk that called for Z's head on a platter is that assumption of guilt or innocence was made by all parties without having evidence like this being presented. We look bad because we defended his actions based on his rights instead of whether he was justified in executing that right , and the antis argue that a kid was dead at the hands of a gun wielding vigilante. This is why the case needed to go to court from the get go to decide whether or not he invoked the argument leading to the shooting.

Screw fox news as an unbiased news source. some more facts of the case as reported by AP: Autopsy results show Trayvon Martin had marijuana in his system and that he was shot through the heart at close range. George Zimmerman had a broken nose, bruises and bloody cuts on the back of his head. "Bleeding tenderness to his nose, and a small laceration to the back of his head. All injuries have minor bleeding," paramedic Michael Brandy wrote about Zimmerman's injuries in the report. The lead investigator called for Zimmerman's arrest in a report written March 13, a month before the actual arrest. The investigator, Christopher Serino, told prosecutors the fight could have been avoided if Zimmerman had stayed in his vehicle. He said Zimmerman could have identified himself to Martin, then talked to him, rather than confronting him. There is no evidence Martin was involved in any criminal activity, Serino said. Serino wrote in a report that he played a 911 call for Martin's father, Tracy, in which screams for help are heard multiple times. "I asked Mr. Martin if the voice calling for help was that of his son," the officer wrote. "Mr. Martin, clearly emotionally impacted by the recording, quietly responded 'no.'" Zimmerman's father also listened to the recording and told investigators on March 19 that it was his son yelling for help. "That is absolutely positively George Zimmerman," Robert Zimmerman said. "He was not just yelling, he sounded like he was screaming for his life." An unnamed woman told an investigator in a police interview that she stays away from Zimmerman because he's racist and because of things he's done to her in the past, but she didn't elaborate on what happened between them. "I don't at all know who this kid was or anything else. But I know George, and I know that he does not like black people. He would start something. He's very confrontational. It's in his blood. We'll just say that," the woman says in an audio recording. An unnamed man told investigators said he worked with Zimmerman in 2008 for a few months. The man, who described his heritage as "Middle Eastern," said Zimmerman bullied him at work. Zimmerman wanted to "get in" with the clique at work who did not like the man, so Zimmerman exaggerated a Middle Eastern accent, and made reference to terrorists and bombings when talking about him. "It was so immature," said the employee, who complained to management about Zimmerman. Zimmerman's parents say he wasn't racist. They said he mentored black students and had a black relative. More info @ http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hCdykoIjmPMAgLTFzxHVIydZIECQ?docId=3f268f957ba44ecdba44ed43b71e48e1

an accompaniment to a gentleman's leisure sport ala poker, golf, fishing, bowling etc.

Perhaps itll show up at the next gun buyback after it is used in a few violent crimes.

That Warthog is EFFING LOADED!!!

They would send you 10 rounders as 15 rnd mags are not a normal item (altered mags) I agree that if youre used to it its not such a problem sticking with it. I like the notion that for once I dont have to settle to live in a RH world lol. Id pay the extra <100 for me to have a LH rifle. The only other thing that kept me from stag was the LH lower which didnt offer the ambi potential for my wife to enjoy as well.

I was considering picking up that exact config. Went with RH instead (non stag). I do think its something I will definitely get in the future just to have a weapon tailored to my left handedness. Stag makes a good product.. you cant go wrong.. Id pay for the upgrade package and get the better barrel, BC, buffer and extra mag.

Could you imagine if they upped the evil feature limit by one to 3

True.. I guess the $17 shipping really hurts the per box price.

.36 a round shipped cant really be that great a deal can it? I bought 500 rnds of lake city last month for .30. Damn this heightened sense of impending political doom!

@:27 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3cHwUcyAEY&t=27s

Jealous... I dont hear a damn thing

LoL.. I figured someone had to say it. Really though, I can understand the above argument if it pertains to your first and only handgun, but theres nothing wrong with adding a little variety to your safe.Quality and reliability should always be a factor, but if glock is the end all be all, thankfully they have an extensive product line to purchase from. It wouldnt bother me to have another black plastic centerfire, or pick up another steel SA/DA handgun. to reiterate there is nothing wrong with a little variety even if the base design is similar to other more notable handguns.

yup... id say having a strong stance on most/any issues will make you a bad candidate. They want someone they can sway their opinion, not someone who can see the evidence in front of them and come to a logical conclusion.

Sure thing you can.. .But given the history of complaints from a certain shop.. may I ask WHERE you are putting a deposit on your future sig? I know youre eager and id just be sure to do your homework on whoever you are buying from. Good Luck on your first! btw.. I have a 226 two tone in .40 and love it. You cant go wrong with that gun.

Going with madm on this.. I think the collective group can pick out one thing they dislike about everywhere... compound that in a single thread of a discussion about what you dont like and you have a dozen reasons why they are considered lacking. Pick what matters most to you. Convenience, cost, company, rules and enforcement and have at it. I dont blame shore shot for leaving as a sponsor given the response people had over them discontinuing the walk on discount. All of those places have their strengths and weaknesses. The important part is that they are there. Lack of competition breeds price increases and drop in quality in favor of volume driven profits. They are all nice places in their own way.

Great story and good write up.. sans the barack hussein obama quip. Just like bashing the governor for his weight, its a useless cheap shot that to me only turns me off to what you have to say. The story itself is good and im glad its not diluted with speculation long before a proper investigation and findings were determined.