Big Mack

I agree 100% that these are important rules that should be strictly enforced, and that is one thing SS does very well. They make sure everyone can shoot, have fun, and go home in one piece. But i'm sorry, weather he uncased the rifle or not, there is no reason you should have been treated like that nor should have the RO placed his hands on your stuff. You can still strictly enforce your rules and not act like a complete asshole. This guy needs be fired or need a stern talk from ownership on how to balance enforcing the rules and treating customers w/ respect. They do mostly have nice RO's though I bought my 1911 their and they let me shoot it for free. Being used to BA i started loading my mags at the table, w/ the gun, in the open case on the table as well and the RO (an older gentlemen) came up to me and politly told me and pointed to a sign that said uncasing and loading must be done in the ports. No problem at all, didn't know. thank you. I even laughed and said to myself "man i look like a complete idiot" because the sign was right in front of me. Thats how it should be done. not w/ numerous threats and him grabbing your stuff.

Actually have an example for you. I was at BA yesterday and i brought my buddy who has never shot and his dad who wanted to teach him. At one point my friend was shooting my .45 and his dad wanted to take a quick video w/ his phone, not a big deal but still not allowed. The RO saw and came over recognized that he was taking a video of his son who was most likely shooting for the first time, actually let him finish taking the video (which was about 15 seconds long), tapped him on the shoulder afterwards and very politely informed him that taking pic's or videos were not allowed. My buddies father even offered to have him delete the video if he wanted which he laughed and said no that it was ok just wanted to let him know not to do it. Keep in mind all shooting was being done safely in the video, I'm sure if we were taking a wana be thug gangster shooting video the RO would have stopped it right away Now If that happened at SS we would have been yelled at like we were children and automatically thrown out. Not trying to start a BA vs. SS thing here, it's just unfortunate that SS has some bad people working their that drives business away.

Agreed, and their rules make perfect sense and are in place so people can go shooting and have a fun, safe time and i appreciate and respect that. Only problem is their complete dicks when it comes to enforcing them. In this particular situation if the RO came up to you and just said something like "hey man just a heads up we don't allow anyone to uncase any firearm unless in the booth, for everyones safety, Thank you" then you wouldn't even be having this conversation. The fact that he ran up to you, threatened you, touched and dropped your personal properity like a big DB is just wrong. I would have packed my gear. bitched the RO out and left. Next time go to BA. Same problem w/ ammo if your buying their but much nicer people.

You would need to always drive around with slicks on the back to have any fun with it. Whats the point of having 950 on the street if you can't put it to the ground. Cool looking car though!

Id like to see a range report on it. it sounds like it could def be a little more balanced from a modern battle field perspective. Shorter barrel, Lighter weight, options for accessories, etc.

EWWW Call Me old fashioned but why the hell would anyone take a beautiful M14/M1A and turn it into that ugly thing??? I guess it's kind of ok looking from a tactical stand point but hey to each his own. I could see maybe if i got a POS M14 for almost nothing and built it up to that then ok but IMO anyone would be crazy to buy a new M14 and then go and do that to it. Just my opinion though if you like it then do it up!!

Great advise thank you. ill def look into that.

I know about that I'm in newark everyday for work

Yea i live right on 516 down the road from the outdoor. the indoor is off 18 if i do recall which is only about another 5 min from me. makes sense for me to join even just for the convenience.

Thats great to know. I'm might be joining in the next month or two. I have one more big P2P to use first. Can you see the outdoor range from the parking lot? not to sound like a creeper lol but i'd love to be able to check it out one day since their right down the street before i join.

How is the outdoor range at OBRPC if you don't mind me asking? I'v been seriously considering joining seeing how i live only about 3 minutes from the outdoor range. The only reason i haven't joined honestly is the working time you need to put in there. I work crazy hours and I'm not sure how that would work for me.

What the hell was the deal w/ the hooded person w/ the armless zombie slaves? And the big castle/fort at the end? I hope the next season doesn't get all weird like "weird mysterious hooded person can teach us how to domesticate zombies" or "he has special powers to make them not want to eat you and become vegetarians"

hahaha i love these

Loving that beretta!! Now is that folding stock going to be illegal in NJ? If so it doesn't look like it could be stripped down completely for cleaning if fitted w/ a pined stock, and if it gets as dirty as an AR?? Sounds like bad news. Still a nice gun though

I figured thats how it would work. I didn't want to make the trip if all i could do was look around.

So how are out of state shows? I'v never been to one. Can you even buy firearms there (jersey legal of course)? how about ammo? Sorry not trying to hijack this thread, but i was considering going to one of these two if i could come home with some goodies.

Oh look another gun we'll never be able to own :wild:

Carl def needs a huge a** beating, not a stupid speech by Rick. He's turned into a little smart a** punk, but at the same time i'm loving how they've turned the innocents & curiosity of a child into something so dark and inhuman. In the scene where rick is about to shoot the kid and carl walks in, i was expecting carl to start crying and or say "don't do it dad" or something like that, but het just looked stone faced and said "do it, do it dad"..... Awesome

haha yesss this is the best idea of them all. Buy both, and enjoy both

I was actually thinking about this the other day. There is an old run down air strip + land by me in marlboro and couldn't help but ponder as to what it would take to buy the land and open a shop/indoor/outdoor range there. Im sure it would never happen though seeing how the local community would prob go ape shit, seeing most people are stupid and would think the taliban is training there or something.

I live in the next town over and have a few friends who live in aberdeen. From what i'v heard they haven't had any problems firearms related beside the occasional slightly longer wait time for a p2p but that happens almost everywhere.

Not sure why wasr's are considered so low end? Maybe I'm just being ignorent or am just missing something? Maybe i just got a good one, but i can't really see how people say they are such bad guns. To be honest the majority of people i'v talked to that said "wasr's are crap" are saiga owners who never even held a wasr before. Yes i agree 100% that they are not as solid and sound as a saiga, and yes i would prefer a saiga over a wasr, but a bad gun??? at least i don't think so. Not trying to bias at all, i would love to hear from fellow wasr owners that may have had problems with their rifles, cause like i said maybe I'm just missing something that make these guns "bottom of the barrel" I guess what it comes down to is if you can afford a saiga then i would buy one. they are russian made, cleaner looking, have a slightly better feel, and can hold a ton of accessories. But if you settle for a wasr don't think you your getting a bad gun, cause your not! IMO

I love my WASR, no problems with it at all.. Put about 3000 rounds of about 10 different brands of ammo through it and have yet to have a jam or misfire. The only problem i'v found is the mags having a ton of play and i wish the stock was a bit bigger. besides that its an all around great gun. With that said i think the saigas i probably the best you can get. I'v shot a ton of them and there just awesome. I decided to go with the WASR because it was $400 cheaper then the saiga i was looking at

Hahaha... Sounds like the lecture i got last night

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