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I've got a tracking # from Hornady for the broken part -- But I don't do well waiting around so I decided it was tim to weld this thing back together. Went just fine although I haven't put it back together yet -- Got pretty hot, hopefully nothing warped Here are the pictures...

I have 51 acres in a town called Warner. It's 20 minutes northwest of Concord. I can't wait for the day that I don't have to leave and head back to NJ.

Looks like it's gonna work itself out -- Hornady is sending me the broken parts -- I'm fine with that Natchez is paying me to replace the parts -- Not a ton of money but better than nothing -- Said they'll give me the press at cost and refund the shipping charges Cost of press they say is $340 something and shipping was $31 -- Gonna refund me $79 -- I originally told them it wasn't enough but with hornady supplying the parts I'm ok with it. Now at least the ass at UPS who tossed it doesn't get to take it home or sell it on ebay -- And UPS did stop by today to pick it up -- they left empty handed

I do too many calibers to use a dillon and I've got a 650 set up in 38 special and .45acp being willed to me in a few years. Wanted the hornady for the ease of caliber changes. I can use all my dies I already own. I bought shell plates for 9mm, 38 super,38 special, 45acp, and .223 rem. I also want to flop to 300 blackout using the .223 shellplate. The rest of my rifle stuff will still go on the rock chucker. I just called Hornady. Finally something positive. They told me to hold onto the press and not give it up yet. They where also the 1st party involved who actually wanted to see the pictures.

It gets even better... They told me to leave it on the front porch!!! Don't know when UPS will come to get it- - Just sometime tomorrow What if it's stolen? Who's responsible then? I've got more questions before this happens --- my money is gonna be refunded or I will have another press before his thing leaves my possession.

I did use a CC. I don't think Natchez will hold my money -- That's really not the point -- I can always dispute them but doubt I'll have to.

Doesn't look good -- Natchez called said UPS will pick up the press tomorrow for inspection -- I told them I wasn't happy with that. Said I wasn't going to supply someone at UPS with a repairable press and I'm stuck waiting for another. Customer service rep said it would most likely be more than a 30 day wait. I'm not sure how it's going to end, I told Natchez to pay me to repair it. Of course the woman on the phone couldn't commit to that -- said she had to talk to her supervisor I'm kinda pissed at the moment -- I told them that if UPS takes the press to refund me in full immediately. They don't have anything to send me, so there's no reason to wait till UPS decides what they are going to do. I'll never see that press again, even if UPS decides not to cover it. Some guy at UPS is gonna get that press, repair it, and be making ammo months before I find another at a reasonable price. The bottom line is -- right now I'm supposed to be getting a call from the supervisor sometime tomorrow, before noon -- at that point we'll decide what exactly is going to happen. Did I mention I was pissed...

Looks like your right to me... Only explanation I can think of is Lawyers Goes to show you, start low and work your way up and find out what works for you in your gun. I always start within printed charge weights in one of the printed, published books on my shelf and work my way up in .2 grain increments loading 15 rounds each I load to the same OAL and just go to the indoor range and try everything on paper checking each piece of brass for pressure signs. Whichever powder charge gives me the best group I'll then load. If I want to further refine it I'll start to adjust OAL. I always try to use the lightest crimp possible, basically just to iron out the belling of the case from the expander die. I also use a lyman M die to expand. It doesn't over bell the case. Remember -- Just change 1 thing at a time when looking for the perfect load...

From what you've said, it doesn't sound like much is off. My load data came from a VV book that I've had for Velocities look fine -- maybe a little slow, but still shouldn't be as big a problem as you say How many of these bullets do you have? Sell them or shoot them and never use them again is my suggestion -- There's plenty out there to choose from -- No need to deal with a bullet that doesn't work for you I'll attach a photo of the page from the VV load book -- It's a first edition Vihtavuori reloading manual printed in 1994 -- I bought it with my 1st pound of VV powder -- in 1994 The data is for a 4" barrel with a 1 in 10 twist using CCI 500 primers

I've got a hard copy of a VV load book -- Your over 1/2 a grain light on the starting load for N320 What is the actual, measured diameter of the bullet your loading? Is your barrel all buggered up with lead? What it sounds to me -- Your not pushing the lead bullet fast enough. Especially if it's .354 or.355 Diameter The lead bullet needs enough powder behind it to deform the base of the bullet just enough to seal the barrel and not let burning gases get past The hot gases will melt the bullet and cause heavy leading of the barrel if allowed to get alongside the bullet while traveling down the barrel. Could definitely cause a tumbling bullet. Have you shot these at paper targets? Further than 7 yards? Is the hole in the paper round?

Then why continue to use UPS?? When I ship out a tumbler, UPS is always higher priced than Fedex -- Luckily I've never had to deal with a claim as the shipper I just sent this out today --- I wonder if they would consider that sufficiently packed

Where the hell is AX? I've gone twice in Montana --- Nothing But MIST!!! Did whoever you where with laugh at that little Mag. They probably never seen one so small. Always a fun trip.

Thing is, they are not that easy to find at uninflated prices

UPS policy, from what I see, is they only make a payment to the shipper. Even if I file a claim, Natchez gets the check. I highly doubt they'll leave it behind. It will need a new box to send it back in. This one is like tissue on the busted up corner.

I'll know more on Monday -- Kinda sucks with a new press sitting here and I can't touch it -- I could have it welded up in an hour but I'm only doing that if they give me $200 back I'm not so sure I'll even be in contact with Hornady -- I think it'll be an issue between Natchez and UPS -- UPS is gonna say it wasn't packed properly, And actually I agree. For $31 shipping they could have thrown the thing in another box. It's not Hornadys fault UPS manhandled a poorly packaged product.

I suggested that -- Cast aluminum is weldable -- I told them I need to be compensated -- Not gonna pay for a new press that needs fixing at my expense Guy a natchez said "why would you do that -- Its a new press, No need for that" I then said, "If you can't get me a replacement, I'm fixing this one for a fee -- No way I'm gonna wait 6 months for another" Once again, He was an order taker --

It can wait till Monday -- No one in UPS will see it till then anyway Natchez will handle it I'm sure -- I'm just the one stuck playing the waiting game -- I can't imagine UPS gives Natchez a hard time -- They are the only option for domestic shipping offered by Natchez -- Gotta be a big customer

After 20+ years of puling the handle on my Rock Chucker I decided it was time for a progressive. Last week I ordered a hornady LNL from Natchez. I decided to go Hornady for the ease of caliber changes and availability. Price was $389 plus Natchez overpriced shipping of $31. Now, I had heard stories about Natchez horrible packaging on these presses, Or total lack of packaging beside what Hornady provides so I had also ordered a can of 1 shot degreaser in the hopes of making Natchez put everything in 1 box. Total Fail -- They shipped 2 boxes -- I guess they overcharged me so much on shipping they could afford to send 2 packages UPS guy shows up at the house after 5pm, front door is open, storm door locked -- wife hears the truck pull up but he never knocks on the door -- Sees the UPS guy walking away -- 2 boxes left on the stoop I get home and immediately see damage to the box, like it was a soccer ball. tossed around and took a heavy hit on the corner -- box totally compromised Before I even opened it, I took pictures -- I've had boxes like this before, usually no damage to the contents -- Not this time I opened my new press to find that UPS actually broke the casting. Took the handle mounting tab clean off the machine. It is cast aluminum. Also the powder measure is all scuffed -- I didn't unpack it to see if there was any further damage I did call Natchez this morning @ 9am -- got a person instantly - Unfortunately, this person was not customer service, just an order taker. NO customer service till Monday. I'll see how this plays out -- Have to wait till Monday, for a call from them. At the moment, they have zero stock -- Can't even send me a new one Here's the pictures...

I'm pretty sure you don't have to pay for your son -- Club member or not -- OBRPC really tries to encourage youth shooters to join in

Just got the email about the special Outdoor version of PCC. http://www.obpcc.org/obpcc/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22&Itemid=63 Looks like fun. I've got some things to do that sunday, early. Luckily there's an afternoon session. Registered 2-4 pm Who's in?

We should be in -- Hockey is over -- I definitely need 200 rnds if I shoot ,45acp -- Lately I find myself, both eyes open, flinging lead, just watching for the hits -- gotta slow down and keep track of that front site I shot 253 rnds 2 weeks ago at the match -- way too much

A nuclear attack, I'm not leaving -- There are just too many of us too condensed to actually get anywhere but dead -- and in the long term cover and supplies will be key Now if I had to bug out to the north, and survive in the wilderness -- I'm taking 2 - .22 rimfires -- Lightweight, accurate, and I can carry plenty of ammo in a small package -- If I happen to survive, I'll pick up something heavier off someone less fortunate

It's only worth something if you sell it -- I'd much rather shoot it

Harry has too many phones.... I feel inferior now but --- DONE

Myself and my boy would be IN!!! Definitely make a road trip out of it.