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Still... your father isn't you. So, doesn't change a thing. To ship a handgun through either carrier, you must follow their rules. Must be declared as such, not loaded, etc. I don't know the protocol of a person shipping a handgun to themselves, since I always ship to either a FFL, manufacturer, or gunsmith... but don't remember them asking me for ID. If you go in, they might ask for it due to the oddity of the request... then what? Hypothetical or not, the owner must ship the handgun. If it is going to two different people in two different states, and the receiver isn't doing work on the firearm (meaning it is going back to the shipper), it must go to an FFL. Can't make it clearer than that. Since you aren't an FFL, you can't go USPS for them... so have to follow the shipper's guidelines. There is right and wrong... if you want to play in the gray and the guns get lost in transit, that is your rodeo.

Yea, let's openly post about fraud and Federal firearm violations over a publicly viewed forum... Your father isn't you... so no, he can't just put your name on the return address.

You'd have to ship them yourself... if your father is shipping them, then they must go to an FFL with a copy of his driver's license. They will be logged in, and you need to follow NJ law to get them (permits, 30-day wait, etc). To ship them to yourself, go down, mail to yourself via FedEx or UPS (Next Day). But if you are going down there, driving is probably easier. As long as you are not going out of your way to jam yourself up, nothing illegal is occurring in regards to having them in your car on your way home. You purchased them legally in Florida (can do face to face sales of handguns between residents down there, right?). No permit required, since you had them prior to moving here... judging they are legal in NJ. If you really want better advice, contact a lawyer that knows NJ firearms law. Personally, the only thing I could see ever causing you issues is being a resident of Florida a "long time ago" and just bringing them up now. But it isn't like a NJSP troop car is going to be hunting your vehicle down for illegal weapons. If they are your firearms, no issues really can arise from it. Best to have paperwork showing the transfer occurred in Florida a "long time ago."

I think everyone has a good Phil story...

It's hard to mess up a choke tube... Personally, I stick with OEM, which means Remington. My Ithaca was shortened to about 20", but had it threaded for Remington chokes for compatibility with my hunting shotguns, which I have pretty much most of the common sizes. My KSG uses a SMT Tactical choke adapter... which also uses Remington chokes. Was considering having my IAC 97 and Century PW87 threaded for them... but think I'm going to wait until I get other things squared away (would like to refinish them, as well). The only shotgun that uses different chokes is my Mossberg SRII, which is my trap gun. Run full and improved modified in it. Think they are Beretta/Benelli chokes. Stock ones were extended, so easy to tighten down. No desire to pick up more. And I agree... clean and grease them before installing. Saves a lot of headache. If you buy tubes online, get a tube with them.

Mine works great. Put it on my PU sniper, as it gives me extra rounds between reloading. Normally, I don't run it... was more of a unique thing to put on at the range. Very well made, and no issues caused by using it as a monopod. The adjustment/fitment is very strong.

I loved that movie when I was a kid... sequel wasn't great though.

Very nice! Makes me want to redo my IAC 97 into a trench gun... Parkerized and all.

Prices are higher than the $675 I paid for mine... from a forum member, but off Beretta Forum. Don't think I was a member here at that time. S&W stopping support/parts was a big thing, but magazines are outrageous. I have 10 or so magazines, then that FBI 15 rounder, but got them when they were under $50. They go from $80 to $100 for the standard 9 rounders. I was considering a 1066 or 1076, as I already have the magazines.

First off, thanks for that. I appreciate it. It's a big move, but considering that most of my family is moving out in the next few years, I don't want to start a career here and get tied down for 25+ years. I love the 10mm. When I got my S&W 1006, it really set the bar with what I'd want in a future 10mm. For the SIG, I am fond of the controls (prefer decockers over safeties... which is why I converted my Beretta to G). It is a well built pistol, even the .45. Issue for me with the .45 is SIG pricing. With the 10mm, I'd spend it because of the lack of 10mm pistols from other companies. For 10mm 1911s, I'm not that big on them. In another thread that touched on the cartridge, I've seen more problems with 1911s chambered in 10mm than most other platforms (exception being the EAA guns). My view of a 1911 is definitely bias, being I like Government profiles in .45 (why I got that version of the Ruger). Other calibers really don't do it for me... but to be clear, I'm far from a 1911 guy. If anything, I'm torn between Beretta and CZ. The P220 in 10mm is the same capacity as the .45, which always bothered me. S&W did one more in the 1006 over the 4506. Why not make that extra round fit, even if you had to redesign the magazine (never did a 10mm classic gun, do it right from Jump Street). If they did a 10mm P227... got to do 12+ in the base magazine. For a new design, I'd see it as the best time to make a standard magazine at a higher capacity... unlike the two differences in 9mm P229s (older one that used P228 magazines, and the newer one that adds two rounds and uses the profile of the .40 magazine body; since it just came up, I think Glock did the GAP line because they felt they should have gone with a less aggressive magazine stacking in the 21/30... maybe like the .45 Beretta PX4, which is a little more comfortable). At the same token, the extended ones... go 15+. Again, I'm very biased...

Reread what I wrote... clearly pointed that out at the end of the second major paragraph. Even gave the example about Florida, stating that I could not survive down there with their salary. Yes, that is one of the things I'm looking at, and worked into that "etc" I put in. I got a call from the Port Authority, from an application I put in 2013 (I believe; was 24,000 applicants that got through the testing). But would require me to stay in NJ or NY. While it is a great job, I valued getting out of NJ/NY more than that. Besides, calling the number that they gave in their message resulted in nobody picking the phone up... and that was more to thank them for the opportunity, but say to withdraw me from their pool. If I'm putting in the application, taking the tests, doing the work to get the job, and eventually relocating... I could take the color of their uniforms as a deciding factor if I so choose. Not that I would... but definitely something I'm allowed to do. Firearms aren't as big of a thing, but caliber is... and why I don't want to apply somewhere that issues .45 GAP. Really, if that bothers someone, just take it as one less applicant going against you (hell, I'll even link you the application links for those agencies). Whatever the case is, my decision factors for applying to a law enforcement agency isn't the topic of this thread; the P220 and the 1911 is.

Don't use smoked magazines... so that wouldn't help me. But feel that is definitely a solution in need of a problem. Reminds me of the magazine counter on the Japanese Type 96/99 machine guns. I'm guessing it is going to have a life... probably similar to Trijicons. So, 10 years and they are dim?

May be the case... I'll have to talk to my two cousins, who were in there years back. One got out and became a teacher, other moved to DEA. I'm like 80% sure they were issued the P2000 (could have been the USP Compact, but sort of doubt it). Glock is big for putting out info when a new agency approves their pistols, and haven't seen anything to that effect. I know ICE did the P229s with the DAK triggers. Don't know if they stuck with them, went to something else, or are looking... but it is a job I'm really not as interested in (rather be at the border/port of entry). It's bad, but there are actually jobs I won't look into due to knowing what they carry. I doubt I could survive in Florida with their income (my brother-in-law was a DOT Trooper, which was absorbed into their Highway Patrol... and he moved back up here due to the income levels), but wouldn't even look because of the .45 GAP. Same with South Carolina Highway Patrol. North Carolina was on my interest list. If I'm going to be issued a sidearm, I want to be confident with it. It's another checklist when I get to something I'm showing interest with... not as important as other things (location, cost of living, gun rights of the state, etc), but it is considered. Was looking at the CBP website, as I was looking into them for some time (seeing what the positions I was applying for actually did). The information for BORTAC had a few PDFs up with them using H&Ks. Could be an old photo, but dates I saw of the documentation were 2014. I do know there is an approved list, so is Glock on it? No idea... but would love to see it for poops and giggles. Personally, I'm not a fan of the Glock 23. Compacts are nice (my 30S is identical in size, just .45), but rather a full size pistol. They do work, though. Guess we got a little off topic from P220 verses 1911. [emoji6] The P220 did interest me when the 10mm came out... but have a S&W 1006. If they did a P227, then I might consider blowing money on that... if SIG increases the capacity over the .45. Should be able to do more than 10/14 with 10mm rounds in that magazine.

Funny you mention H&K... I'm currently looking at the Border Patrol... and likely (if all goes well) considering Maine as future employment. They issue the H&K P2000 (read that there is a consideration for a move to the P320), but have other firearms approved for carry. My father has a USP .40 that I converted for him from DAO to LEM... and I really do like that trigger. I wish they allowed a similar P30L, as I prefer longer slides, but don't mind the P2000 (guess they like the USP Compact magazine, since both guns use them). I grew up on DA/SA. My first real handgun shooting was on a S&W 686, then my dad switched his 629-1 with me (he gave it to me when I got out of college). I used to shoot a Walther P38, then bought a Beretta 92 Brigadier Inox as my first pistol. That was actually the first time I really was taken back by SIG, being I saw a beat up P226 that was rebuilt (springs and a once over... not refinishing) priced the same as a new Beretta 92FS. I put a few more dollars in for my gun over the basic Beretta, but that really stuck with me. The trigger on my P228 is very easy to connect with, but if the current P226/P229/whatever other classic model are similar, I really don't feel the difference in price is justified. Even H&K... where does that extra $100s go? My CZ, or any of my Berettas (have the 92, 96 conversion slide, and had two PX4s... sold the .45, but kept the 9mm), are reliable enough to put my life on them. If you get a pistol from a reputable company, it likely will work... and if not, you send it back and they should get it going. When a gun has an aspect that you want, the LEM trigger for example, then I do see spending a little more for it. And touching on that, LEM way over DAK. [emoji41] While I could say the same thing about people that get high end 1911s over my Ruger, there is an argument that can be used with those... and even the SIGs. The buyer just likes them. The SIG has the manual of arms that really makes it apparent. For higher end 1911s, if someone wants to pay $4,000+ for a Nighthawk... it is something they feel that price is justified. I'm just not seeing it the same way.

Personally, I like SIG classic pistols in double stack frames over a single stack. My P228 is never being sold, as it is a beautiful pistol. Not a fan of the SAO versions, either. Between the P220 and the 1911... 1911. I'm not a fan of SIG pricing, and really opposed to them due to it. My P228 is more of a collectible in my eyes, but my P938 SAS was picked up because there wasn't a similar pistol out there at the time I bought it. Shy of that, not spending $1,000+ on a SIG. Similar CZs and Berettas go for noticeably less. My SR1911 was under $700, and I can swap stuff out over time to get it where I want it (all MIM is going for stainless... for looks; also getting a spur hammer). I think once I'm done changing it up, I'll have a gun exactly how I want for about what the SIG MSRPs for. I view a 1911 as a AR... you can customize them exactly how you want because of the aftermarket. Yes, SIG has an aftermarket, but it is across how many different models? P220, P226, P228/229... most not compatible with one another. Add in the P320, and you are going to have more people building parts for those over the classic line. Unless you truly love the SIG controls (decocking lever), I think a 1911 is the better choice. Everyone should have at least one 1911... and I'm not even a huge fan of them. I got my Ruger pretty much just to get a decent and affordable 1911 in my collection.

There are others out there... RifleMod did these, which are very well made. No permanent modifications, and these function great. Just something to screw around with.

Asked about this topic being against the rules, and received no answer from my thread, so posting it up as I feel some of the forum would have a need for this service. From talking to holster companies, it seems that if you want one made specifically for an odd handgun, you would have to find a NJ FFL that would also make the holster to legally carry that out. Problem is that I actually have not found one in central NJ that offers that service. So, I've talked to people at the Oaks gun show and heard that sometimes, custom holster makers come to do holsters while you wait. Went out to this past one on a whim, and found one that I think would be a good option for people that have a gun setup not commonly offered as a holster. I was looking for a company's name prior to this show, so at least there is one contact name on the forum if people want to check if they will be present at an upcoming show. If anyone finds another maker, definitely add into this thread... as I wouldn't have thought to check a holster company from Ohio to be going to Oaks. Now, I do want to clearly point out that this is not a dig at any holster makers... especially NJ ones. Personally, I say buy locally to keep the NJ gun/accessory market going. But not every company can make holsters for all guns... or even specific accessories (lights, lasers, bayonets [emoji41]). Anyways, I wanted to have a holster made for my SP-01... wearing the CZ Tactical Block. I have a Bravo Concealment holster that fits it with a TRL-1, which was my first Kydex holster, so wanted to get another. There usually is a guy at the shows that does custom leather holsters... and while I like some of my leather holsters, wasn't what I was looking for (or even one of those universal holsters which might have fit). Walking the show, I found a corner table in the first room with a good amount of Kydex on the table. Quite a few holsters in some common variations, as well as knife sheaths. Guy just grabbed lunch, so figured I'd talk to him while he wasn't working on holsters. Showed him what I had, and described what I was looking for (OWB holster in black). Company was Shark Tac, the guy's name was Brandon, and he was very interested in what I had. Asked me about the way the block was secured to the rail, and how it locks/unlocks (wanted to see if any pressure on the locking tab will cause it to come off the rail during the draw, and looked to see how he could make sure that did not occur). Gave me a price to do the work ($140), which was fair in my eyes, considering the amount of custom work needed to be done. Said he will be about an hour, took my name and gun info on an invoice, and said to enjoy the rest of the show (was another room to look at). Came back a few minutes before the full hour, and he asked me to give him a few more minutes. Considering it is a gun show, and people inquiring for services/purchases... absolutely not a problem. Walked out to the car to toss ammo/gun case in my trunk, went to the bathroom, got a drink, and came back as he was finishing it up. Showed me retention, and I was very happy with the work. Here are some pictures of what I received... Brandon was proud of the work, as well. From talking with him, he has been doing holsters for 17 years. He asked if it was ok if he took a few pictures for his Instagram... which I had no problem with (he made sure serial numbers were out of frame, which while it didn't bother me, I appreciate it; the one he posted looks great). One of the people working at a magazine table (all odd firearm magazines in different calibers) came over and was impressed when he showed her his work. At the same time, I asked if it would be ok to mention his company in a review... which he appreciated. Very happy with the holster. Retention was a little tight, but has worn in enough to make it a nice draw. Rather it start off too tight than too loose. Going to link his business card, as I am not affiliated with him. Figured if someone has a gun setup that they want a custom holster made for, they can reach out to him and confirm if he would be at an upcoming show (pain in the butt to walk around with a cased handgun while you are looking around). He did say he usually attends Oaks... and looking at his website, he is saying he will be at the upcoming August 2017 show. While I'm not looking to have a bunch of holsters made up, I am considering one or two possibilities. I would like to do one for my S&W 642-1 with a LaserMax weapon light... but would like to see if he could do something for 9mm moonclips (would have to grab some snap caps to bring with me). Other one I was considering was my Glock 30S, with a weapon light on it. I was thinking about a sheath for the Tactical Block blade, but rather something more practical (would keep it from just sitting out in the safe). If someone finds another holster maker that does a similar service, I'd definitely want to hear about it. If a NJ FFL offers it, I'd also would want to get the word out.

1. .38/.357 Snubnose Revolver -S&W 642-1... also converted to 9mm 2. Pump Shotgun -Remington 870 Police 3. An Old West Style Gun -Uberti 1860 Henry Steel frame 4. Polymer Service Pistol -Glock 30S 5. Large Bore Revolver (.41+) -S&W 629-1 6. Defensive Carbine (aka Assualt/Black Rifle) -AR (have a 5.56mm or a .45 D/I) 7. .22lr Pistol -NAA Sidewinder (.22 LR and Magnum) 8. European Mil Surp -Yugo M48A 9. .38/.357 Target or Service Revolver NOPE 10. .45acp 1911 -Ruger SR1911 11. American Mil Surp -Garand, but to be different... a Custer era Springfield Trapdoor Carbine [emoji41] 12. "Something for your Wife/Girlfriend" -Ithaca 37 13. .22lr Rifle -Ruger 10/22 Takedown 14. Wonder Nine Pistol -Beretta 92 Inox Brigadier 15. Pocket Pistol/Mouse Gun -Ruger LCP 16. SxS or O/U Shotgun -Mossberg SRII 17. -SIG P938 SAS 18. NFA/Class III NOPE 19. Firearm You Forgot You Owned -Nagant 1895 20. Something "Evil Looking" -KSG 21. "Pair of" or Duplicate Gun -Remington 11-87s (slug and field guns) 22. Curio and Relic -Mosin Nagant PU sniper or M38 23. Inherited/Gifted Firearm -Marlin 60 24. Bolt Action Hunting Rifle -Remington Model 7 (going more to a precision rifle instead of hunting) 25. Something that made your wife/girlfriend angry -Tavor Hopefully, I can fill one of those in the next year or two. No chance in hell I'm getting a .38/.357 service revolver.

While I think it is cool, not something I'll buy. Have multiple magazines for a reason, and have a few different loaders depending on ammo source (load one at a time, load a bunch from a tray, or load from stripper clips). Loading through the ejection port just seems like an easy way to jam up the rifle... unless they came up with a fool proof way of making sure it is good to go. Not condemning the design, but something I'd look at if I were considering it. What happens when you have the loader a little bit away from receiver? What happens if you are at an odd angle (front is closer/further away from receiver than rear)?

I'm not a fan of them anymore, but AIM Surplus had a coupon code in AR15.com, something along the lines of the guy Bryan rocks (yea, after my D/L and FID were left on their server for years, allowing a hacker to get it)... which gave a decent price for the PRO. Definitely check AR15.com. You find LOTS of deals there... either new or lightly used (just check feedback). I got a NIB PRO in the low $300s, shipped... as well as a used CompM4s and a bunch of other stuff for around $400. Both work great on my ARs and Tavor (PROs on the two 5.56mm, and the CompM4s on my .45 D/I AR).

Any other issues need clearing up? If so, let me know.

Received... looking back, should have made it clear I was doing a brief paraphrases with the emails. You have my apologies for that. Savage specifically went into the reasons why, in regards to NJ law. I looked at that in the way that PA law allows people to bring a handgun into the Oaks show (unloaded), so cuts out the legal hassle. I'll definitely take a look on Facebook, as I find stuff like that very interesting.

A-Tech, it is what it is... no need to go back and forth over how I took your email. For the record, I didn't know how you formed holsters until this thread, with you stating it (CNC). Your message didn't come off as anything more than you cannot use my firearm for it... with an email going to Savage stating the legal reasons, I'm sorry that I linked the two together. Up to this thread, I was under the impression that a Kydex holsters was made by a heat gun, and either the gun or a mold. For Savage, it is a legal issue. For Titan, it is a production issue. Fair enough? Read above...

Do they do compliance work? Just for knowledge...

I am aware that Titan and Savage are different companies... your response to my email was "we can't do it." Their response was "we can't due it because we are not an FFL, and would be illegal to bring your gun to us." Figured that was the reason, which was partially right. Again, I respect any company's decisions. They have to pay the bills to keep the lights on, so they are the ones making the decisions. I know my needs are far from the norm. However, if you guys put out a holster for a gun I'm looking to get a holster for, I'll likely buy from you... even if I'm out of NJ. I was very impressed with them. And for the visual why Savage couldn't do it... and even if you guys start doing SP-01 holsters, likely wouldn't help. Doubt there is a huge demand for those... but wanted to check NJ companies first. I would like to do a review of this maker from Oaks (as long as no forum rules are broken), in case there are other NJ shooters with odd holster requests.