SgtToadette

For those curious about the full stats: http://www.cdc.gov/n...tats/deaths.htm http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-15

Shhhh....it's a secret!

I'll cross post this from another forums because I think it raises a few good points:

I'm getting my AR together as fast as my $10 an hour budget can afford. I've had my lower since September or so. Just need the upper, but that's a $1300 purchase and the holidays hit me pretty hard.

Considering how divided we are on this issue, I think it's clear that the NRA did not do it's job in uniting gun owners and moderates. They've let us down and it couldn't have come at a worse time.

Just located this on whitehouse.gov: http://www.whitehouse.gov/share-your-thoughts-reducing-gun-violence?utm_source=wethepeople&utm_medium=response&utm_campaign=safety Get writing!

Good read. Thanks for posting.

Someone else had posted this elsewhere and I don't think I could have expressed myself any better: I would have worded is a little more eloquently but I think a good point is made. Considering the scale of this mess I something far more eloquent and persuasive.

Since you all have such wonderful thoughts about Mr. Morgan, go let him know what you think on his Facebook! http://www.facebook.com/PiersTonight

Just came across this: http://factcheck.org/2012/12/gun-rhetoric-vs-gun-facts/

Please tell me if I'm wrong, but if gun control is going to happen, it's better that it happens sooner rather than later while we still have the supreme court on our side.

I agree 110%. I respect the work he's done but please, for the love of all that's holy, get him off TV.

Younger generation guy here. There is CLEAR evidence that suggests video games have NO long-term impacts on adolescent behavior. Anyone who suggests that these games directly contribute to violence in kids are no better than those who suggests that guns cause mass shootings. Period. This issue was closed a decade ago.

I find it funny that we don't even know what we're specifically up against but a lot have already given up. We don't even know what's on the table yet! Lets reserve our feeling of defeat for when we actually get defeated (should that be the case).

I pick 30 because that's what's largely considered the industry standard. Do I personally agree that magazine capacity should be limited? No, but for the sake of compromise it's a proactive step and those who would want larger capacity magazines can still get them, but they'd be required to jump through a few more hoops.

There's always gunssavelives.net. It would be prudent to save a couple of the more important stories for later use.

I posted my suggestions in several other forums, might as well post 'em here: Magazines exceeding 30 round capacity become treated like NFA items. In exchange for this, more funding would be provided to the ATF specifically to staff more positions to help improve turnaround on all NFA items. Local police must have an armed officer on duty or the school-board must provide certified substitute at all public schools. Educational and mental health institutions must communicate information about "high-risk" students with the FBI and an infrastructure would be created to ensure confidentiality and appeals. Private firearm transactions must be required to take place at an FFL dealer so as to ensure a NICS check. The FBI would consequently receive more funding to staff more positions and reduce the cost of NICS checks.

Here's the video:

Thank you very much for this list!

http://www.facebook.com/NationalRifleAssociation

Honestly, though. How different do you think the situation would be had Romney Won and Obama was in lame duck mode?

Just registered. Thanks for reminding me!

Just refreshed a few times and you weren't kidding. They're loosing about 1 like per second. Good riddance, too.

I think it goes without saying that everyone here is passionate about firearms and any future action to restrict our passion is unnerving. With all the ensuing hysteria from Connecticut, this nation has become polarized overnight. We know the media is against us, but like it or not, that's where our friends, colleagues, and family get their information from. Whining about that fact is a waste of time. We need to focus our efforts on conversation. Social media is an important tool and we should take full advantage of it. Be vigilant in talking to the anti-gunners in your life. Engage them in conversation but please remember these two things: You attract more flies with honey than vinegar: I get that we're all passionate, but we must try our hardest not to reinforce the stereotypes that the media and a large portion of the left have given us. Do not be bitter, angry, or raise your voice. We can not afford to turn people away who may be potential allies in the coming political battle, simply because we chose to have a poor attitude. Do not be loose with the facts: I repeat, DO. NOT. BE. LOOSE. WITH. THE. FACTS. Before you cite something in an argument or conversation, make sure it's supported by reputable sources. We cannot afford to look like we're making things up. We have solid evidence and solid philosophy behind our love of the second amendment. Don't invalidate the rest of our points in the mind of the opposition because you were negligent. I also want to use this thread as an opportunity for us to share our collective knowledge and valuable information with each other. If you have a link to a reputable source please mention it. I'll be posting some of the resources I use below and will try my best to update the OP with others from you guys. List of Valuable Information: - Gun Debate Basics (List of several sources and debate fundamentals) - How to Talk About Guns (Daily News opinion piece) Opinion Pieces - Why Liberals Should Love the Second Amendment (blog post from DailyKos) - Why Not Renew the “Assault Weapons” Ban? Well, I’ll Tell You… (anti-AWB piece) - Dear Gun Control Democrats: 6 Ways to Make a Better Argument (demonstration of anti-gun ignorance) - A Few Thoughts On Gun Control (general overview of the issue with citations) - Violence In Schools: How Big A Problem Is It? (NPR article regarding school homicide) - Gun Control Tramples On The Certain Virtues Of A Heavily Armed Citizenry (Forbes, regarding intent of 2A) - FAQ on Violence (Reactionary blog post to criticism of "gun culture" by Sam Harris) - Government has no right to reinstate assault gun ban (Pro-2A opinion, written by one of our own!) - Waking the dragon — How Feinstein fiddled while America burned (comprehensive perspective of the issue from our side) - The Second Amendment and Yelling Fire in a Crowded Theatre (Debunking the reasonable restrictions argument) - The Assault Weapon Myth (Article from the NYT) Primary Sources - JustFacts.com (Compilation of cited facts) - Assaultweapon.info (visual explanation and background of "Assault Weapons") - State by State Homicide Breakdown by Weapon (FBI Data) - Crime in the United States, by Volume and Rate per 100,000 Inhabitants, 1991–2011 (FBI Data) - An Updated Assessment of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban: Impacts on Gun Markets and Gun Violence (.pdf warning) - First Reports Evaluating the Effectiveness of Strategies for Preventing Violence: Firearms Laws (CDC review of gun control) - United States Child Mortality, 2007 (Child Mortality Summary, 2007) - Testimony of David T. Hardy before the Senate Committee on the Judiciary (.pdf warning) - Fact Check: A tired old gun stat still in service (debunking the "40% of gun sales" myth) - [C]ontinued use of the claim that 40 percent of gun sales lack background checks (another fact check) - Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware (Pew Research) - National Vital Statistics Reports (CDC Report on deaths in 2011) - Shooting Blind (discussion of media reporting and "assault weapons") Videos - (Discussion of crime statistics and Firearm violence)(caution: this does not hold up well to criticism) - (Canadian Lawyer discussing Gun Control) - (US Statistics discussion) - (Differentiation between semi and fully Automatic) - (Demonstration of limited capacity magazine effectiveness vs. standard capacity) - (Interview outlining general issues) - (PBS interview) -“Stand Your Ground” Laws: Self-Defense or License to Kill? (CATO Institute seminar feat. Masaad Ayoob)