Kingsoverqueens

I'm a fairly accomplished home cook who entertains frequently. One of our regular gigs is "Pizza night" where we'll invite some friends and I make homemade pizza and other assorted goodies. This past weekend we hosted some friends from High School (someone cue up Glory Days) and one my one friend invited one of HIS friends who I knew from HS but haven't seen since then to join us. Ugh. I'm normally a very welcoming and hospitable host who would look forward to 3 (his wife and kid) additional guests...the more the merrier...however, since the shit in Newtown I've kinda lost my appetite for people. Anyway...I smiled and told him to bring them anyway. Then he tells me they are kosher. Oy.... Knowing that not all people follow the same guidelines I asked him "How Kosher?" He tells me that they have separate sinks, plates, etc. Dude...that's pretty kosher. I can provide paper plates and stuff and make them meat free pizza's but this is going to be a challenge. Whatever.... So, they come, and things are going very well. Everyone is getting along swimmingly. The drinks are flowing and food is excellent. I cook everything and then when done join into the conversations that have been going on for the better part of an hour of so. The woman are talking about sports and kids activities and I hear my wife mention "range" and something else and then baseball comes up (my middle kid plays travel baseball) and then the conversation goes back to the cost of these youth sports. I mention to my friends wife..."forget baseball, have you a clue how expensive it is for what Andrew and I do?" Now, the wife of my kosher guest asks "where do you golf?" "Golf?" I ask...she replies...yes, when you and your son go the range..where? I chuckled as my wife says "no, they shoot together." My guest (judy) looks confused so I lean over and whisper "we shoot guns.' Her eyes get wide as saucers and she says "Oh no...I'm a liberal and hate guns." I tell her...plenty of liberals like guns so just because your a liberal doesn't mean you have to hate them, and then I ask if she's ever shot one. Yes, she says, when I was a kid....in Canda. Oy.... So now I've got a gun hating Canadian Liberal kosher woman in my house. We actually had a very interesting discussion and no body got thrown out. But what I learned is these people eat all of the crap up that they hear on the radio and see on the TV and read on the internet of papers. The amount of misinformation is staggering and oh yes, plenty of the "I don't know why anyone needs" got thrown around. The lack of education on firearms and firearm culture is so shockingly evident, and frankly, we aren't helping ourselves with "Prepper" TV shows and Hollywood in general. Just this weekend ads for Stallone's new movie "Bullet to the Head" is on TV. What the eff? Anyway, that was my Saturday night.

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No. A 35 cal and a 30/30. You may have to search back a little bit.

Thanks Bob. I found it. I don't care what Nick says about you...you're OK in my book. :thumbsup:

I hear you, but like I wrote earlier...I didn't intend for htis to be a buy sell thread. There is a seperate forum for that and I've listed some of the guns discussed for sale there. If anything I'll make up a list of all of them and list them as one thread in the buy sell.

Assuming that true, there isn't any reason I shouldn't pop it's cherry, right? lol I fawned over that gun since I was a teenager and if keeping it unfired helps get my old man more coinage, then fine. But it's not really worth more as a virgin, then I can't think of a reason not to que up some Barry White, light a candle to set the mood, and have my way with it.

Using that criteria the price on my MKIII is more than fair...perhaps even low. Is there an easy way to see what actions closed and the selling price? I've poked around but no luck finding it.

Not the intent of the thread Blueline, but in that spirit, I thought $900 for a 30 year old unfire MK III was fair...hundreds of views and nary one offer, all the way down to $700. Hence part of the reason I haven't replied to your requests for a price on the Star. I price it too high and run the risk of getting my balls pounded flat. You buy and sell alot...you tell me what is a "fair" price. lol.

Therein lies the question. We're not talking about new M&P or Glock fired 6 or even a 100 times. We're talking about 30 years old and never fired outside of what the factory may have done. Litterally like finding 30 year old car sitting under a tarp with 13 miles on the odometer. Does the same hold true for guns like it does for cars? I starting to think it doesn't, and if so, I'm going to have my way with them.

Thanks NJCK. I didn't intend for this to evolve into buy/sell thead (hi mods :waves: ) but I do need (and appreicate) the help.

I've recently taken over my fathers collection for the purpose of selling them, to help him raise money. There are a couple I'm going to keep as they have no value but are fun to shoot...the 1950's Mossberg 410 bolt comes to mind, or his old 30-06. I'm going to pay hm for the 1960's Spanish SXS shotgun because it's pretty and has some sentimental value to me. Others I'm simply not really interested in. The kicker is that some of these guns have never been fired. Ever. 1981 Colt Trooper MKIII in 357, as an example...never fired. S&W 17-4 from 1981...never fired. Some other pistols, 2 lever guns... I'm having a hard time finding acceptable selling prices. Using the Colt as a continued example, the "Gun Blue Book" puts the value at $900 for a 100% gun, which this is...it's 30 years old and brand friken new. I tried listing it here and finally pulled the add after reducing the price to $700.00. So, my question...how much, generally speaking, are old unfired guns worth as compared to old fired guns? Or are they? Is it even a factor? I'm getting to the point where preserving their virginity for the sake of a few extra bucks is losing it's luster and I'm tempted to deflower them. lol

Man, my wife shops at that store.

Hey Doug. Harder/easier is a relative term, but for a beginner I'd say yes...static steel is easier. Go with a mindset of not worrying about your score (time) and have fun. You can start from the low ready and your life will be made easier with 5 magazines. If you don't have extra's you'll need someone to top off your mags inbetween strings, and someone will usually pitch in to help. 22 is a terrific platform for static steel.

Oh he did. Hold on a sec Harry...let me get you the Booboo ice out of the freezer. lol

Mmmmm. On the fence. I'm entertaining people Saturday night and depending on whether or not they bring kids will determine how late we are up, and how banged up we get. :beers: Jr. beat me by 1.05 in rimfire iron pistol 2 weeks ago at CJ...I need revenge!

No, what happened in NY was really, really, really bad. You have to remember, there are two sides to this issue. While we disagree with them, the Anti's hold a lot of voice in this discussion. The Gov. let them know that he's looking into things. His entire base of comments was focused on violence...not gun violence...but violence. We keep up the pressure, make our arguements, and hopefully prevail.

I've got a better idea. Instead of boycotting the newspapers (that's a good idea already) boycott the advertisers. As an example, I know that Boscovs (local retailer) advertises a lot in the Asbury Park Press (wife buys if for the coupons). I'm going to send a note to them (boscovs) letting them know my displeasure that I'm a gun owner who's unhappy that they are supporting a company (Asbury Park Press) who feels its OK to publish lists of gun owners.

You can use the same 2 references and your employement status shouldn't make a hills beans worth of difference. Unless your town has streamlined its process you can expect it to take 6 months or whatever. You don't need new fingerprints, but it's still going to take as long as it takes, you know.

You can't be goughed if you don't purchase the item.

Most online sellers will sell you all types of ammo online, however, you cannot buy or possess pistol grade ammo outside without an NJFID. I'm not motivated to find the section of law however I've read it in the past for the purpose of similar conversations. Online sellers will gladly sell you ammo...they don't care if you are legal. It's up to you be make sure you are legal to buy it. I've never once shown my FID for online purchase, but have had to read disclaimers about making sure that I (the purchaser) is eligible to purchase the ammo. You don't need the NJ FID to own a gun that you purchased before you became a resident. There is no mandatory registration and there is no permit to own a rifle or pistol. You will, however, need teh NJ FID to purchase pistol ammo at a gun store or other brick and mortar type location. Depending on your relationship with the store they may consider 22LR ammo to be pistol grade and require the ID card. You won't need it for shotgun shells or 100% pure rifle grade rounds (223/308/30-06).

I agree.

As I understand, Tom will let new shooters participate without cover garment, but only for 2 shoots. After that you must have a cover, and if you are going to shoot IDPA at Sommerset, he requires that you join the association as well.

Unless you are taking a job in law enforcement you can expect that CCW isn't going to happen. They are as rare here as pink unicorns. I'm sorry. I don't know Jersey City that well and thus can't recommend any ranges in that area, which is why I asked where you were going. Others will offer suggestions. Bear in mind that it will take a couple of months to get your FID.

I own a business and real estate in Staten Island and just found out that the Senator of my district (Lanza) voted for the bill, however, the Assemblyman (Borelli) voted against. I've contact both.

No additional permit needed to have in your home or for transportation to and from the range. NJ does have a "Voluntary Registration" of guns purchased out of state, but again, that's a voluntary process. What you will need is a NJ Fire Arms ID card if you wish to purchase pistol ammo. What part of NJ?