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Why can't a cheaper 9mm version of this be reproduced? The GSG 22 is a fraction of the cost. Why couldn't they just make a 9 mm?

"Which one of you 14 dickeads ate my Elios Pizza?!"

Alrighty so I'm not crazy. It's just the Apex is unfair comparison. It's all I've known for two years so I'm jaded. I will just go 1911 on the next one and never look back. !!

Incorrect. He's back at the helm September last year. He was just doing the side gig thing called being a Mayor for a while. Now he is back in charge of Bloomberg. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/06/mike-bloomberg-mayor-vs-mogul-119111.html#.VdFKjye9KSM

Rented the VP9 yesterday. And from all the gushing reviews I was expecting pure butter in my hands. I dunno, was okay. I mean not awful. I don't shoot a lot of guns. I dry fired a PPQ i owned for a couple months but sold it unfired. I recall te PPQ trigger being better Am I crazy for thinking my M&P with Apex just blows the VP9 away? Is it just that a different gun is phantom to me? Aside from the weight of the pull the slightly hire bore axis is noticeable on the VP9. I had a rookie shooter with me (so unbiased) and he goes "wow that one is more jumpy". I know it was the bore axis he was talking about. After my disappointment with that (look it's a great gun I'm just being way too critical in all fairness) I'm just wondering do I ever bother buying another 9 if they will all fail vs the M&P with Apex. So any of you Apex lovers please chime in.

If you are traveling and have children... How are you locking it away? Is it that you are going to places where it will always be on your person? How about vacationing where you cannot carry? What if you rented a house at the shore for a week? How would you stow it away from the kids? Honestly if I was a perp I think robbing a designated beach rental would be stealing candy from a baby.

I'm sure Whatver your wild guess at what you thought it would cost will be like 7 grand more. Peoples heads spin when they are told 12k to 15k As far as flooring goes. Carpet is fine if you lay down DRICORE first. This way if you have a little flood or condensation it doesn't touch the carpet. And the wood is soft on the feet

Why so much pussy footing around this? Have your reference call the PD and ask them why it has to be notarized? "I received this reference form, why does it have to be notarized?" "How about I come in and hand it in person?" "How about you calling me on the phone like other PDs do?" "I will do you one better and bring it in face to face" I mean I'm on board with you guys wanting to stop illegal documents... But so much whiney speculation here. Just do something not whine about it to the 2A guys. (PS.. I've had a couple to drink) I get it you're worried that you get to the bottom of the pile... But you will learn more about your case if someone makes an effort instead of just barking. Time and time again we have learned these extra docs disappear when someone presses them.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-09/making-guns-cool-high-schools-embrace-shooting-as-hot-new-sport Trap shooting is fastest growing HS sport. How did they let this one pass the editors...

There is an unfired A300 for sale on newjerseyhunter. There is your gun my man.

disregard.. found it in bottom of box

the Penn reel came today.. its just the REEL.. there is no "crank" with it? is that right? only the spinner mechanism and no handle to crank???

Ordered a Penn Reel from Fishrnans and in will just let him exchange it. Thanks for the store tip I was gonna do Bass pro before

Ordered a Penn Reel from Fishrnans and in will just let him exchange it. Thanks for the store tip I was gonna do Bass pro before

For father in law. He fishes barnegat bay or beyond 4 times a week. He is an enthusiast for sure. I was on bass pro shop website. Two speed reel? Multi level? I have no clue. Is $200 to $300 enough for an awesome reel? I was thinking bass pro because he will probably exchange it anyway he is very very picky. Can someone recommend a store closer to barnegat area that has great equipment that would be closer to him? Bu he is the kind of guy he would drive 45 minutes to that store for the best.

Anybody who is thinking about spending. $200 on a bug out bag but won't spend $200 on cameras for their home security needs a mental check.

For close quarters. Shotgun spray = rifle spray. Many videos to prove it.

Look I just committed my own snafu of switching up the topic. I think the OP doesn't want to even load one by one into a semi for a run and gun. I just assumed it was about auto or not

Why not just a semi auto?

So let's stir this pot up.... What shotgun you using right now?

My point was that I think above someone said "good for them where they are legal to do it". Welllllll you "could" do it here too. Probably cause more angst than benefit. But if someone had the cajoles they wouldn't go to jail. If someone did that here would that be good or bad for our cause? Would you treat that guy the same as the guy who brings his AR into Starbucks? "Just because you can don't be a jerk" So if a guy in NJ stands in front of a recruiting station with his black gun most would you say "right on man!" But if he stood in front of Shop Rite would you say he is a jerk? Interesting situation.

Guess i will start this debate: Who says nj wouldn't be within the law to stand in front of center with unloaded AR and my FID card ?

Great replies. Now I have all bullet size plus the gun size considerations answered Good job. Just for the record. Original idea was mostly inquiry about the gun size and the 380 but the knowledge about the blow back stuff was great

Most excellent data above. Can someone chime in about the size of the GUN though? Is the grips smaller on a 380 gun because the round is shorter?

so the smaller carry guns that are in 380... obviously the LENGTH of the cartridge is smaller than a 9mm.. but width of the BULLET I believe is the same (someone talk to me about grains please). Now I think the width of the CARTRIDGE is "slightly" wider? so if bullet is the same width but cartridge is wider then its about how the bullet is pressed in the cartridge, is that right? so anyway here is what I'm really wondering about.. are the 380 guns smaller because they even make the GRIP shorter/thinner since the round is shorter? so like they are making use of all the smallness of the 380 to make the gun smaller? If the grip was not shorter (I mean front to back not length of grip) than a 9mm then are they choosing 380 just because the cartridge is slightly thinner? I mean its negligible.. Im just thinking these things in the debate of a 380 vs 9mm carry gun. so just summary.. 380 shorter = smaller grip = smaller gun? Or is size of the grip the (front to back) the same on a 380 vs a 9mm?