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Yes, i try to do my own research before i hit up the forum.. but I kid you not, when you put "how do red dot sights work" into YouTube videos for Modern Warfare (the video game) come up. I know red dot, and "hologram" sights are not laser sights. My question is, does the bullet go wherever the red dot is (after you have it zeroed in) every time? I don't mean like is accuracy guaranteed (nothing is guaranteed). What i mean is, are red dots to make accuracy better, or are red dots for overcoming that you don't need to be aligned perfectly? With iron sights to hit the target everything needs to be on plane, your eyeballs on plane with front sight on plane with rear right, on plane with target. I think the red dot overcomes this because all you have to do is see the red dot on your target in the viewfinder your eye can be "out of plane" a bit, just as long as you can see the red dot on the target... no? and red dots don't magnify if i've read it correctly.. So red dots i think just make aim EASIER.. not better/accurate.. is that correct? I know the replies could be two pages long, but you guys are pretty good at summary info.

KENTUCKY ?!? yeee haww! http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/reports/070512_1998_2012_state_monthly_totals.pdf its interesting to look at these stats as a "gun-friendly" vs population of the state.. buy holy crap. KY wins by a landslide.. NY beats NJ by a factor of over 3X.. we all know NJ is the most densist state (meaning population, not intelligence.. lol).. but look at the checks.. if they want us defeated.. we are.. (i havent been into guns long enough to look at numbers if there was a "before" P2P timeline..)

i have a standard HD 18 inch 12 ga.. how do i attach a sling to it? i've been poking around it appears that swivels are sold separately from slings, correct? where do you guys attach the swivel on the muzzle end? is there a replacement clip for the tube or something? I have a Blackhawk specops butt on mine, looks like there's a hole in the bottom for a clip/swivel. I'm not looking for anything super high tech.. just something i can clip on and off easy. So i assume you permanently affix the swivel to the weapon, and then just clip on off/the sling when warranted? If anybody can post some links or suggestions to parts it would be much appreciated. I think a standard 2 point is fine. And i think someone will ask me what it will be used for.. it definitely is not for hunting.. just something that would get my hands free if ever i had to be on the move with it.. ya know?

Great stuff guys.. PK90.. good point.. depends on the pistol.. if you don't have a safety.. Adam: no offense taken, i've fired enough rounds to consider myself i dont need anymore training on how to hit a target in the red from 10 yards at the Hole/RTSP.. but the training we are talking about now is very different we all agree. Smokin 50.. i'm sorta leaning your way.. and "gun on table drills" ? Now that's something i think i could get interested in. I did my NRA intro with GFH so i know who they are.... so one of these days i might do something advanced.. All great thoughts guys.. thanks! (and if i ever see you guys on the range please don't remember me as the "the guy who doesnt feel comfortable using a safety".. i think i'm pretty competent.. i'm just like a sponge to this new sport and ask a lot of questions.. always want to learn/improve myself.. but most importantly learn the right/safe way..)

that thread drifted a bit into a "what is at your bedside" instead of "what condition do you keep your bedside semi-auto.." the majority of responses was "keep it the condition you would carry.." But what for those that never carry !! ?? I guess i'm ignorant.. is most of this forum for LEO that carry? As long as i'm living in this state i will probably never EVER carry.. so i'm restricted to the gun rules at ranges, which i'm pretty sure don't let me walk around condition 1 with my pistol. Now yes, i get it that in my home i can keep whatever condition i want.. but since i'm not comfortable with Cond 1 (because i havent been trained to carry) that's why for now i'm keeping Cond 3. But now i understand why a majority of guys that carry will of course keep Cond 1.

ALL GREAT GREAT FEEDBACK !!! MCBETH: "John Browning was genius..." i love that.. you may have me convinced.. SMOKIN 50: That is sort of how i felt about it... (well not the part about giving my position away.. i'm in bed! lol..) GRIZ: I don't "carry" my gun.. only rangetime for this newbie.. so the only process i know is load magazine-rack the slide-fire.. in less than one second. (i said that not to make a point of the time.. but when i'm at the range its just instinct now..) REDBOWTIES: sometimes i wish i had a DA just for the nighstand situation.. And guys.. frankly, i can't remember the last time i used the safety.. ummm.. its like NEVER. My only time with guns is the range (bullet hole and RTSP).. and call me an idiot, but when does the safety ever get used at the range? I load my magazine, i fire them all.. then repeat.. I will self-deprecate myself and admit i'm a newb and i'm the classic desk-job guy who loves to shoot at the range.. I think i should practice some sort of drills that involve me using the safety more.. So in summary, since my life has only been load mag, rack, then fire... that's why i've been condition 3. But you guys have given me great info i might have to practice a different drill.. Such great feedback i am now going to become a paid subscriber..

all you revolver guys can skip the "that's why i have a revolver bedside..." For those that have a semi-auto at bedside.. (pistol that is, not your wife..ha hah) What condition do you keep it? I would highly doubt zero. Condition one seems logical but, but cocked for a very long time does it put pressure on the spring? (yes i know all about spring science, i've read all the magazine/spring debates on this forum, i just don't know if the hammer spring falls into the same category, are there other tensions in the trigger?) I don't really understand the difference between keeping Cond two or Cond 3. In both cases if you are SA only (I have a 1911) you need to pull the slide back to fire. So it doesnt matter if there's one in the chamber or not, no? I still consider myself new to guns but i think i'd get less failures in Cond 3 because i'm pulling a new round up when i yank back the slide, i'm not dealing with an "unused" round already in the chamber "in the way". I dunno.. i'm on the fence about it.. i'm guessing if the US Military told its troops to carry condition 1 (i've done my 1911 homework) , that's safe/adequate for bedside, but the point is i'm sure at the end of the day when they put their gun away they de-cocked it. A bedside gun could stay cocked for weeks/months continuously.? Advice please..

i've spent about an hour on youtube looking for videos to explain how a trigger system works. (a while back i saw a video of a girl explaining how the sear/disconnector works pinned onto a piece of styrofoam that was awesome but i can't find it anymore). I'm curious about "trigger jobs" but i'd like to know how the system actually works. My problem is there are a billion videos on "trigger jobs" but all they do is say "here is how you remove the sear, this is what you do with the disconnector.. etc etc." but i'm kinda more a student than that. i want to know HOW the whole trigger/spring/disconnector system works. Like what makes a tigger BETTER than another one. I guess my fear is that i will F with my gun and heaven forbid it goes full auto on me if i start dropping parts in without really knowing how things work. so if anybody knows a good video link offhand.. or diagrams in a book it would be much appreciated. Again, not just the definition of a part, but how they interact. thanks!

my 2 cents is if you just want to shoot them you havent solved the problem of why they come into your yard in the first place. i've had them for years and years, its pretty brutal what their tunnels can do. the only way to really solve your problem is to make your property uninhabitable. that means putting chicken wire in the ground of every place they ever dig. Under my shed, under my fences, instead of fencing off the bottom of my deck instead i laid chicken wire on the ground so they can't dig holes in the ground. it took me about 3 years to "cover" all the areas they liked.. but since then they have never come back.. they try, but they will just hit chicken wire. (and if anybody thinks the chicken wire looks ghetto, it doesnt.. the grass grows right through it.). in the meantime i trap them in a big cage, and take them to the park a couple miles away and release them.

Does anybody know what semi-automatics rentals are there? i'm sure a bunch, but can you remember any others (besides 1911s). They had the P30 there? i'm surprised such an "expensive" gun was available for rental? Is there a PPQ there? did you think $104 for 3 rentals was too high? if you are trying different calibers you probably had to buy their ammo, so $34 bucks per gun (including ammo) is not bad i think. I will spend $30 to put 50 rounds down a gun before i make a decision to buy every single time.

i saw this contest.. i think its a NO BRAINER to win this contest by submitting a video that a person in NJ should win the contest because we have the toughest laws in the land, and its the hardest to buy/build/carry weapons in our state and giving that prize to an NJ person, as opposed to a person in Texas, is a sign that the gun community sympathizes for us in NJ. So if anybody wants to submit a video with that idea, go ahead and take that idea. (i won't submit a video because in my job unfortunately i can't be blasted all over the internet saying "give me a gun please.."). but again, i think a no brainer winner idea..

I know you guys are the veterans here, i am the rookie.. with real due respect here.. he just got DENIED to purchase a weapn from the Fed.. (whether it was an error or not..) and you guys are telling him to go ahead and do a private purchase? Something is very askew.. i don't think purchasing a weapon when something is askew is a good idea until he figures it out.. From the Nappen book. page 113.. WARNING: If you are denied via a NICS background check for the purchase of a firearm, the State Polilce will investigate you and you become a target of prosecution. A person could face a potential third degree (5 year maximum jail time) crime for making false statements on a firearms application under NJS 2C 39-10 ©.. If a person is ever denied by NICS, immediately contact an attorney knowledegable in New Jersey Gun Law... I believe the original poster when he says he is innocent, it probably IS just a mistake.. but this should be handled very seriously. ...again, all due respect.. i don't want this thread to turn into a war of whether he should do a private purchase or not.. i'm just looking out for the guy.. that's all.. I've been the victim of identity fraud.. its SUCKS.. fixing the system sucks.. i just want him to get to the bottom of it.

I don't own a PX4, but i've tried one, and i just couldnt get comfortable pulling the slide back without hitting the decocker.. sometimes i pushed it up.. sometimes i pushed it down.. it just got in the way. i prefer the overhand grab instead of the slingshot grab to pull the slide back.. any thoughts from you guys about it getting in the way? It totally changed my perception of the gun.. great trigger, great ergonomics.. just hated that slide.

PAGE 113 of the Nappen book says contact an attorney right now.. State police could be looking for you because of the denial.. (don't flame me.. i'm just reading from the book).

Maybe he just wanted to make a custom grip. you know kinda like when you warm up your mouthpiece to mold to your teeth...

If Jon and MrSurf above are correct (and i never doubt Jon.. :-) then that answers 90% of the "what happens when i get pulled over".. "what happens if i get rear-ended coming home from the range".. etc etc when you are knowingly using/borrowing a HG that you did not purchase on your own.

Great stuff guys.. Rifleman, i had read that exact same web comparison previously.. that was the exact reason why i started this thread.. i wanted to know do guys choose 223/556 over 22LR strictly for the power. I'm sorry if this thead drifted into an education on ballistics.. i do indeed know the ROUND is not the same (round meaning the entirety including the weight, the velocity..etc etc..). I should have been more specific in that the DIAMETER is the same, as BHunted posted, i was curious if there was something else that guys wanted besides "more stopping power". So what i'm getting is that the answer seems to be range, accuracy, power.. the 22LR is more like a plinker and the others are for serious rifle coneisours (spelling?).. and i hope i just didnt insult a 15-22 owner there. Right now in my rookie-ness I am still at the plinking stage and have never even shot outdoors yet. Halyamber, i will check that out.. (after i google around and find out exactly what that means.. ha ha..). No need to expand on that in this thread, it will just drift too much. thank you to all the replies!

I've read lots but here is an opinion question... (no its not the dreaded.. "should i build or buy?" question.. :-) being new to firearms i was kinda dumbfounded that the AR15 shoots essentially a 22 caliber bullet. (please lets not get technical about 223 being bigger than 22). since i was a rookie i saw those HUGE cartridges of 2.23 and 556 and just figured it was a BIGGER bullet.. like a 45 or something like that. So when i was reading that a S&W 15-22 for like $500.. and the "other" AR's were over a thousand bucks for the longest time i just thought "well bigger bullet equals bigger platform = more money".. etc etc.. so then i find out the "bigger bullet" is really just still 22 caliber. So here is the question: Can someone tell me any other reason why they went 2.23 or 556 instead of 22LR? I know its natural that bigger = better.. but the bullet really isnt bigger! Yes, i know the STOPPING POWER is different. I read a great article where they showed 22L vs 2.23 the size of the hole it makes and the 2.23 went through a steel plate and the 22LR did not. I get it that the bullet is more powerful. I dunno, i guess i'm just having a hard time processing it. With handguns its black and white: 9mm is bigger and stronger than 22LR, 45 is bigger and stronger than 9mm. The caliber IS DIFFERENT. But 2.23 is same size as 22LR, essentially.. Please don't cringe when you read that. So besides stopping power.. can some guys tell me why they went 223/556 over the 22LR? Is there something else about the rifles i don't know? Distance? Accuracy? Reliability? From reading a lot on this forum when people ask "what kind of AR should i buy/build?" the answer is always "what are you going to use it for?" So here i'd like some of you AR lovers to tell me the differences between the 22LR and 223/556 (besides stopping power).

after you take the barrel out flip the slide over and look "underneath" i don't remember the exact spot but its there.. if i get a moment in the next day or two i will take mine down and tell you specifically. here is a better test though.. take off the barrel BUSHING and hold a magnet to it.. if the magnet sticks to the bushing you absolutely have a Gen2..

SWEET... DB.. i will check that out..

does that one just slip over the existing one i have in the picture? or does that slip over a "tactical" stock? are the ends of the stocks different size? (sorry i'm not good with the lingo yet..)

the stock looks like this one.. this is not the extact shotty i own.. but the stock is like this one.. it has a LITTLE bit of padding/cushion but its pretty generic.. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/76662/Mossberg+500SP+12g+18%22+6SH+CB+LIGHT

I only know this from youtube stuff.... apparently there is a Gen 1 and Gen2 version of the gun.. the Gen 1's had lots of problems with the recoil spring jamming (that was fixed by removing the "taperish" of the spring.. also the Gen 2 fixed the bushing breaking problem, the orig bushings were not steel, now they are.. the first productions of the "Gen 2" had a 2 on the slide and the magazine. I bought mine in March and saw the 1 on the magazine and specifically told the shop i want a Gen 2. while i was right there they called ATI and they were told i indeed have in my hand a Gen 2. So my magazine says "1" but my slide says a 2 and my bushing is steel. And my spring is not tapered.. so ergo..i have a Gen 2.

I've been reading this site for about 3 months and its pretty amazing how often this topic comes up.. the "i'm using a gun that was purchased by someone else, if i'm just taking it to the range will i get in trouble?..." topic. And it always goes back to the "how do they check ownership?" (aka the "can they run your gun through a database? issue).. and that never gets answered... Its remarkable.. it never gets answered.. but the overwhelming opinions suggest the laws are clear on how you LEGALLY obtain (notice i didnt even say purchase) a gun, and guns are not allowed to be borrowed. So therefore any HG you put your hands on (without the owner present) is illegal. but now go place odds on if you think you will get stopped by the police. Drive around with vicodin that's not yours in the glove compartment, cop doesnt make a big deal.. drive with an HG in the trunk.. much bigger deal.

Brand new Moss 500 12 ga owner. Very bare bones minimum item. Sorry if i'm wussy, but the butt stock is just all plastic = very hard. Can anybody suggest a budget recoil stock or pad accessory i can add on? This is important: THIS IS NOT A TACTICAL for me. I'm not looking for $150 collapsable state of the art tactical butt stock. But i am willing to replace the entire butt stock if there is an affordable one that is more comfortable. I'm looking for something a bit more higher class than just a "slip on" cushion, but hey, if that works for people i'm all ears. Lets say keep it under a hundred bucks if possible. When i google around there are just soooo many choices its overwhelming.. i'd like to get some suggestions first.. post links or detailed names i can search on.. Muchas Gracias..