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I don't think you can blame the range. Doing what these guys did just takes a second. There's nothing the RO can do to stop it. I shot twice at SS. ROs seem to be on point. Second time I brought my wife and her friend (who'd never shot a gun before). The ROs stayed closed when she (the friend) was shooting and offered helpful tips. Both times a good experience. Same with GFH which also rents. They only time I've felt unsafe at a range was at Clinton WMA rifle range- We called the range cold so a couple of guys could go down range to set up. Meanwhile the idiot next to me decides to shoulder his 12ga single shot with the action closed and use it as a spotting scope. I didn't want to startle him in case it was loaded, so told him calmly "hey don't point that down range with people down there". He put it down and said something like "oh yeah, oops. It's not loaded though. Haha." When the new guys got back I packed up, told them what happened and left. ETA: When I go there now I won't go down range unless the other shooter(s) is as well. If that's not feasible, I ask them to case their guns. I don't care if it makes look like a jerk, I'm not trusting some guy I never met with my life.

Yeah, their mobile has never worked right.

You're right. It's a Talo exclusive: http://www.lipseys.com/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=RUNVBH-453A http://www.ruger.com/products/vaqueroDE/specSheets/5154.html

Don't know how many of you are interested in single action revolvers, but for those who are, this is the definition of a great deal- http://www.kygunco.com/ruger-vaquero-45-auto-6rd-375in-blued-revolver-58276 There were only 800 of these ever made, 500 in .45 Colt and 300 in .45 ACP. They usually sell for $600+ and the lowest price I've ever seen for one NIB is $550. EDITED: Changed title to from Lipsey's to Talo exclusive.

Citizen's Rifle and Revolver Club in West Windsor http://www.crrc.org/crrc.htm PM me if you want to meet up sometime, I owe you a guest-in.

Suddenly, I like my range a lot more. One of the indoor ranges is just like that: 10 positions, 2 tables that move. The other indoor has electronic returning targets (like shore shot, bullet hole, etc). No magnums, shotgun or center fire rifle. Outdoor is 40 positions with 25 & 50 target stands, though you can bring your own to setup at any distance up to 50 yards. High power rifle is outdoors, 1 position only, benched at 50 or 100 yards, through a concrete tube. And we run trap twice a week year round. Dues are only $165/yr. Not great of you're a rifle shooter. Pretty good for handgun, shotgun and rimfire.

Yeah, it should be Monday 9/15.

Plus I'm sure the most of 10 people on here clamoring to join (myself included) would be like most other members- never there.

He's talking about the Bren Ten.

Dang. Sorry about the joke, dude.

Basically, joining SCFGPA is like being made- once in a while they open up the books and extend a few guys the privilege. And their friends get giddy too because they can now come along for the ride. Then you're part of the family (unless you're name is Tommy, in which case it might end badly). Plus guns are involved.

Well, you're looking at $700-1,000 for a nice lever action, $500ish for a low end rifle and up to (maybe) $2,000 for something really nice. For an AR, basically the same pricing except the upper limit is much higher. Of course ($ aside) the real question is

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Mostly the kids and the typical unfounded fears: what if it "just goes off", etc. It literally took no more than an hour of explaining to her how guns actually work and why the police can't be everywhere, so it's your responsibility to protect yourself for her to come around.

He admits as much. In his one man show he says he's made stupid choices all his life with his marriages, his friends, his management, money, career, drugs, you name it. And he doesn't blame anybody but himself- no victim mentality. He just says he's not that smart, so he effs up a lot. Whatever else you can say about Tyson, there's no question that he's genuine. And his response to that "journalist" was outstanding.

Some kind of pellet gun when I was 5 or 6. First center-fire, when I was 30+. I guess it's never too late. In fact... Although my dad was a gun owner, mom was a super-anti, so us kids didn't get to have any fun. She's now pro-2A and at 71 got her first gun (a GP, of course).

You'll probably enjoy shooting your rifle outdoors at longer distances anyway. Outside of function testing, going out to 50 yards with a .30-06 gets boring quick.

I'm pretty sure he meant 320 (striker fired sig)

Glock 19 is one of the 6 basic food gun groups: .357 mag revolver (Ruger or S&W) 1911 Pump shotgun (Remington or Mossberg) AR/AK .22lr rifle and.... A 9mm plastic handgun (G19/M&P/XD/PPQ,etc.) ETA: To your last statement "Not sure though if I want to do two 9mm" That is the question. And it totally comes down to the individual. For some people, one revolver is all the wheel guns they'll ever need. For others, it's the opposite. Same with any other type of firearm.

Short barrel, pistol grip shotgun?

I've been doing some research on lever guns too. Will probably buy one in the next year. The Henry Big Boy is at the top of the list right now. I really like the Marlin 1894c, but reviews are mixed since the Remington take over. The Winchester is nice, but.more $ than I'd like to spend. As for caliber, I really like the idea of a .30-30. But outside of deer hunting, which we can't do with a rifle in NJ, it would probably see little use. .357 mag in a 18.5-20" barrel, on the other hand, is full of win: low recoil, 2,000+ fps and easy to find ammo.

I'll be ready as soon as I get more permits. So, sometime in 2015...

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