Combat Auto

Thanks for all the views folks - I decided to go with the M2 with confetech and gost rings..Wasn't the $600 bucks savigns but rather a lb lighter (i appreciate this after standing shoots with my beloved M1A - which is a heavy rifle and it's only challanging aspect IMHO), seems like a simple design (all things equal simple is better), still looks very cool (ok, not quite as cool as M4)...And if iit shoots as fast as the M4 as folks imple, and is just if not more reliable ->M2 is my ticket...Now the challange of aquiring one - no easy task..Tried 4 spots already and nada.

Speculation is mental stimulation (or stimulation of your butt as Qel metioned ;-)) - it is a thought excercise, that is why you might want to speculate. Anyway, I hope they go the mental health route...Maybee toss in a few round reduction on mega-mags as a red-hearing which would not impact NJ's 15 Rounds (I hope).

Anyone care to speculate on what the NRA may offer-up tomorrow - as they said: "meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again." -Joe

Bryan, M2 1469 - this is the comfortech + ghost ring option. M4 ~2000$.

Ment for Behunted: HK, Isn't the m4 legal - with the standard stock option? (ie no pistol grip)

HK, Isn't the m4 legal - with the standard stock option? (ie no pistol grip)

Rob, If I can make it - I appreciate your kind offer!...In the mean time, how do they compare as far as rapid speed of fire? I did see a video of the M4 being rapid fired and I was very, very impressed on how fast he could get all those rounds off - perfect for home defense - put the bad guy down fast (Dual 45 cal pistolsas back-up of course)..... So how does the M2 firing rate compare to the M4? Also, where did you get your two Benelli's? Thanks, -Joe

I watch the below video which was very well done comparing the two...M4 is kinda M2 on steriods I thing....I want to buy one of these for home defense (either have a no-pistol grip option)...The M2 is about 30% less expensive (although money not an issue)...M2 is about a pound lighter --- this is a tangable plus....M4 has the combat-cool factor --- an intangable plus :-). He talks about fact that M4 is a internal gas assist gun so you can put more gear on the gun; wheras the M2 is not so no more than 1 lb of gear on end of gun or will malfunction....This I don't understand at all so any clarification is appreciated.. I would appreciate any opinions from you experience shotgun owners which might be an optimal home defense weopon (money not a factor)... Thanks (never owned a shotgun), -Joe

it has an option of no pistol grip

I am totally new to shotguns - and given I will not be able to get an AR anytine soon I am looking at a shotgun... Is this legal in NJ: http://www.benelliusa.com/shotguns/benelli-m4.php And how can you tell if it will shoot slugs (self defense in home application - but I have a pet so no scatter shot)? Thanks,

Thanks

Reliability, accuracy, function? I am thinking about placing an order for one (8 month lead time). Thanks, -Joe

Bow and arrow! ;-)

Just called shore-shot they are just getting last Friday's back - so 3 business days I guess...CRAP! - I have a pistol to pick up from them this week!

Well, they are smarter then I thought...On the other CT-mega-thread I posted several times that "this time is different" and the NRA needed to kick something in, be proactive about solution, etc (not all the Gunies liked this notion)...Thier statement implies they are thinking along the same lines: "The NRA is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again." Hope they have a good idea on what can truly help this growing deasease and keep our rights in tact also. -Joe

No response by NRA yet... I don't think it is good... Just allows the socialists more room to define the CT attrocities as a gun issue, define the NRA as not giving a crap, and define gun ownership in general as bad. NRA folks should be on every talk show possible, stating our case, pointing to the root causes, educating the public, showing compasion, and offering up solutions...You can not repeat your view enough when it comes to these things. I work in a job where messaging is a big part of success, I know from over 30 years experience, the longer you are silent, the more the situation will be defined by others, and the harder it will be to change views... Momentum is building (ie accelearting) in the public agains the gun community and the NRA is silent - Bizzar! -Joe (NRA member)

I know it is not popular here - but I am all for strict mental health checks, and apparently we need IQ checks also...Given guns to people without qualifications and training is not a good thing.

Still going up the skill curve of my M1A (Battle Rifle Extrodinair! ;-)) I purchased over the summer, i was going to wait another year to get a carbine... However, with the possible "ban" of "assult" rifles, altough likely small change to NJ law (see the post I started: "Timming of assault weaopon ban...."), I want to purchase an M4 type carbine (if I can get one)... What do folks recommend along these lines? (Please, no Bushmasters - that name will carry a stigma for some time [not saying it is fair of course]). Thanks, -Joe

Thanks for your great post!

Folks, I'd be interesting in getting your opinions... Assume worst case and Sen Fienstiens assault weopan band on (new) guns is approved... When do you thing it would kick-in? What does it really mean to NJ folks - don't we already have an assult weaon ban? Thanks, -Joe

The country is not going to stand for thier children being slaughtered in school (and they shouldn't!)...Unfortunatly, guns are the scapegoat...NRA will need to offer something up to turn the tied...Just the way it is - not saying it is right or wrong...I'd like to see something along the lines of smart technology being applied. Many on these boards do not recognize, this event is a sea change (I wish it were not, but likely it is)...Our only hope is that by offering a concession, NRA can turn attention to the real-root cause: Too Secular a Society, Ultra Violent Video games (this is a form of mind control on kids - that otherwise lack moral direction), Mental Health Management, and better School Security/Marshels...(Remember, personal attacks on people you do not agree with is not a plan ;-) - Romni said to Obama in the debates...So, no nasty adjitives if you don't agree...Sadly, I recieved some on this board Saturday - which of course is a sad reflection on the person sending them).

As mentioned above about what the Socialists will do/lie, Howard Dean on CNBC just now flat out lied, saying that a semi automatic - if you pull trigger once - many many bullets come out...This is going to be a tough fight....

Well said, I been pushing a similiar view...NRA digging their heels is not going to work this time - this is the BIG-one...NRA needs to be proactive and help propose solutions.

I have many friends living in TX, and they are very pro self defense...Walk in and buy a pistol with just a call for background varification (no 6 months to get a permit)...All the pistols you want (no 1 per/month)...Many self defense shootings - at least in Homes - not prosicuted at all...Pass the test you get a CCW.

No surprise, eh? This is the big one like many have been saying....The fact that it was 3-6 year olds makes a big difference (did with me)...NRA, needs to be proactive about proposing solutions, as I've said...Marshells as another fellow propoesed, video game sensorship, morality education (cause it ain't happening at home apparently), and responsibility, etc...NRA saying "it aint guns" will not be enouh this time...Next 6 months they (socialists) will play advertisements of running children, and tears in Obama's eyes, over and over again...They will distort reality, hide any truth, attack any person to get their way (this was apparent from the Presidential election)...They are the mordern day masters of mass-propaganda...If we don't get involved, we will be burned at the stake metephorically (in a crisis, they always look for a "witch").