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1. Application type: Mutilated FID + 3 P2P 2. Police Department where you applied: Union Township 3. Name of the person you dealt with at the PD: Det. Baird 4. Time taken to issue FID and/or permit: 2 Months, 7 Days 5. Documents required by the PD (aside from the standard application and the mental health release form): Standard 6. Notes - anything pertaining to the application process (unforeseen difficulties, chief of police calling your home, you hiring an attorney, etc.): The detective told me I needed to get a new FID card after he noticed that they never signed it. The unsigned card was a replacement for my original FID which had a misprinted FID number. Other than being on my third card in 1 year, the process was smooth and there were no other issues.

@ Clintoon If you are referring to Union Township PD, I can assure you nothing fishy is going on. I spoke with him a few days ago about submitting my permit requests. I also have a lot of good friends at the department who all said things have been hectic there for a month, and it has nothing to do with the gun control issues. This is how the process has always run in Union. They want you to physically meet with the detective because they run your prints through their system. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Concerning the fog lights; I failed inspection with my Jeep in October due to a fog light being out and was pulled over three times (warnings) in different towns over the summer. All the LEO's were cool but still did their checks. You have I look at it from their end concerning checks. You never know who you are pulling. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I guess that answer my question Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I've been receiving a TON of e-mails asking for donations since I joined their mailing list last week. I also noticed that their other e-mails are basically copies of the reports I've read from the NRA & GOA. I did a search and others claim that NAGR (National Association for Gun Rights) is a scam. Does anyone know anything about them? I don't want to be handing out money to anyone that isn't legitimately fighting for gun rights. Misc. Sources

It's highly likely I will be getting knee surgery in the last week of January, so I'll be unable to attend. To make up for it, I'm making phone calls and giving out information on the rally to every gun owner I know. Good Luck all

Unless you are a NRA board member, I don't see why any of us would be informed of each and every thing the NRA is doing behind the curtains. If they were to have frequent press conferences, the liberal media would pick apart and twist every word out of their mouths as they have in the past, and use it against us. The whole purpose of lobbying is to sway or influence the decisions made by government officials. They wont accomplish that by giving press conferences. As for memberships, I'm already a member of the NRA, NJ2AS, & GOA and will be signing my wife up shortly.

*update* The detective at UPD called yesterday and tried to reschedule for next week. He WAS on vacation for the holidays. My wife told him she starts at a new hospital on Monday, so he is squeezing her in this afternoon. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I just finished "Fearless" about Navy Seal Adam Brown. Hands down was one of the best books I've ever read. I have way too much time on my hands with this knee injury.

Thanks for the heads up.

Just out of curiosity, has anyone compiled a list of those who aren't gouging?

@ Malsua Yes, I did read the article. My response of "seems legit" was concerning whether or not the receipt was a fake. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Seems legit. I checked it out on snopes: http://www.snopes.co...dicaldevice.asp **UPDATE** I just spoke with a friend in PA who was at Cabelas this morning. There isn't a Medical Tax on his receipt.

While away for the holidays, I sent a duplicate e-mail & letter in the mail to the President & all representatives. I received one response from Joseph Cryan (Sent from his iPad) and a few auto-responses from others. I did not participate in the poll nor do I feel that it will give anyone an accurate estimate of who is speaking up in the gun community. I know of many people, not a part of any forums, that have already spent hours making calls.

Merry Christmas! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Just to clarify one thing: I am in no way, shape, or form claiming the police are 'the best of the best' when it comes to shooting. I do know a few guys that are great when it comes to qualifications, but probably would preform about average in a situation.

I agree 100% with vladtepes. Well put. Luso: It's extremely rare that in a pressure situation, even with the most extensive training, that you are going to hit every one of your targets. I have many friends, all with combat experience in Iraq & Afghanistan that will back me on that. Most of the guys I know returned to the states and became police officers. Some of them claim that their qualifications for firearms are more difficult now as police officers when compared to the military. Now, these guys have experienced stress, have been shot at multiple times, all in the middle of mortar fire, rpg's, road side bombs, & the million dollar question... Who is the enemy, what is he wearing, & do I shoot? They've been tested and have survived. There are too many factors which most of us have never experienced that go into these situations. Can a teacher do that? Maybe if he/she is a military vet. But your average every day teacher will perform at the level of a trained police officer or military veteran. Now, I myself am being trained by a few ex military guys, because I'm trying to get into a police academy in Virginia. They preach 3 things to me. Pay attention at the academy, be able to run 5-8 miles per day, and shoot until my finger falls off. Firearms qualifications are one of the #1 reasons recruits flunk out of the academy. Knowing that, there's no damn wait I'm going to trust anyone but a trained professional to protect my future children.

I received a text late last night from my friend. "He left early for vacation pal. Don't worry Liz will get in when he gets back" I'm also making an appointment to get as many permits as possible. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I was actually thinking about that last night, and believe it or not, my wife picked up on it minutes after the speech. She pointed out how quick the media switched topics on Obama. The majority of the coverage I've seen today has been concerning the fiscal cliff and I'm also very curious to see how this plays out. I guess we can only hope.

I go to upstate NY often between Syracuse & Buffalo. When it comes to handguns, you have to have a NY Pistol Permit to shoot at the ranges. Most places wont even let you pass by the front counter unless you have a permit. We tried going in August with a friend that just returned from Afghanistan. We even contacted my friend's uncle who is a NY Trooper and he confirmed. We do shoot rifles just about every time I'm up there and that includes my friend's AK's & M4's. Other than that, no handguns for us Jersey guys.

I'm waiting for a friend to call back with info. I know they don't take many appointments around the week of Christmas, but I'm curious why my wife couldn't go in today or tomorrow since it was the detective who scheduled her. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I know about 8 guys and their two dispatchers real well, but I don't recognize that name. Most of the people I know I also went to UHS with, but there are a lot of faces at UPD that I've never seen before. Update to the Wife's cancellation: She called an hour ago as instructed by the detectives secretary, and was told that no new applications will be taken until after January 1st. She also is being instructed to call after the 1st to make a new appointment, so now we're back at square one. I'd call the chief who I know very well, but we're leaving on Saturday morning for Buffalo and I don't think bothering him with this will benefit us since we're returning on the 30th. I don't know exactly what is going on, but I do know that this Detective has a rep for being difficult and frequently throws around a bad attitude. We'll see what happens when we return.

Just signed my wife up. Plan on supporting others once I catch up with the holiday spending Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

My buddy up in Buffalo told me this afternoon that he waited in line for about 2 hours with a few hundred people at the local gun shop. He bought 1000 rounds, and said the store was completely out within a few hours. Same goes for most of the stores up there. Looks like we'll still be shooting this weekend.

No, I forgot to mention it was a message. I have a few friends that are officers at upd and did see him in today. Who knows.. We'll see what happens tomorrow when my wife calls to reschedule. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk