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The Union Police Department called my wife today to cancel her appointment for submitting FID & PP applications. She's extremely disappointed, but she was told to call tomorrow to reschedule. With our trip to Buffalo for the holidays, it doesn't look like she'll be able to do it until after January 1st. It sucks, but who knows.

I'm sorry but I'm not seeing 'anti'. I'm seeing a politician, saying what he needs to satisfy the public. I'm no fan of the guy, but at least he didn't come out and just completely put the blame on firearms. His 'pro' comments towards law-abiding gun owners will have their own outcry in his own party.

When I looked earlier, it was in the 240,000 range

Good find, Thanks!

I left my iPhone home when my wife and I were finishing some Christmas shopping. Just came home to a message questioning my order cancellation and stating that they can still send me the mags, glock parts, & misc, but not ammo. I was asked to contact them at a number provided or e-mail address if it's more convenient. So... I replied... Subject: Concerning My Order #XXXXXXXXXXX Message: To whom this may concern, A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. Regards, Your former customer I have yet to receive a response

Agreed

I just cancelled the order I placed yesterday for mags, ammo, and a few spare parts. Unreal.. If you click 'reload' on their facebook page, they are losing a ton of likes by the second

Just came across this: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/18/nra-to-push-back-soon-sources-say/ Hopefully, something will be said soon. Most of us have definitely been impatient, especially with liberal media firing on all cylinders against gun rights. But, I have to respect the NRA's decision to keep a tight lid for a few days.

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I have to admit, this bothers me, but I did have a great experience with them during hurricane sandy. Obviously, driving to most shops was off limits, I was running out of gas fast, & was told by a close friend who is a cop that there were several break-ins and thefts right near my house. I headed to Dicks to buy a package of defense rounds and experienced no hassle whatsoever. He also informed me of the benefits of owning a 870 in these kinds of situations. As mentioned above, their 870 are being sold at great prices. As for prices on other items, My Wife and I shop there frequently for gym/running gear and they are neck and neck with most other stores, including sports authority. Then again.. Who isn't overpriced these days?

I believe something will happen, but not an all out gun ban. I definitely think we're looking at restrictions, but for many reasons, I don't see an all out ban. One of which is the state of our economy and the debt of our government. Our government simply does not have the resources or money to enforce an all out gun ban let alone putting it on the states who are also in financial hardships. I just cant see it.

I'm not necessarily saying that it's about the punishment, but we certainly can't continue to give kids the impression that nothing will happen if they commit a crime or break the rules. There's just so much out there that these kids have access to. Our beloved media makes it perfectly clear that killing someone will get your name seen around the world. Or, if you can find a loophole in the law, you can commit a crime, exploit the loophole, and get off on a technicality. It's a mess and it's everywhere. I mean, look at our government. This is obviously a serious issue when it comes to someone who is mentally ill and having access to firearms. But, instead of our government saying "We need to make changes and pay closer attention to the mentally ill in our country" they are saying "We need stronger gun laws".

I mean, I'm only 30 and graduated in 2000. I never saw or heard of any of these things happening while I was in high school. No matter how much someone hated a teacher, you never saw it go to a level of personally attacking them. Most feared facing their parents, the law, or even being kicked out of school. This whole tragedy just puts a knot in my stomach for various reasons. It's the kind of thing that smacks you in the face with reality

@ jackdawack You're making my argument for me. Because I do agree that discipline is not feared by these kids. The fact that a troubled kid can pick up a gun and not have any fear of the consequences scares the hell out of me. You seem to have a lot of experience with this generation of kids, as my wife and family do. I've asked them this same question: Why is this generation of children more difficult to deal with then in the past. And, Why do they feel they can get away with just about anything with just a slap on the wrist?

First, don't make the mistake of assuming that I don't have knowledge of the subject. Second, All issues have to be handled differently. If we're referring to your average healthy youth, I feel that there is a lack of discipline and a lack of accountability. The methods used by the current school systems have more than proven that they simply are not working. This also falls on the parents actions. Concerning the mental health issues, I believe there is a lack of proper care. There aren't enough funds to back these institutions. This falls with our government and not necessarily the mentally ill child. I'm not disagreeing with you.

You're combining two separate incidents. One from my brothers fiance, and one from my wife. The girl does not have a mental disorder. The two example were used to explain why I feel that the many in this country do not fear they will be held accountable for their actions.

Well, I don't want this to go off topic just because of one example, but the girl used instagram to superimpose my brothers fiances head onto a porn picture. Now the picture is circulating and the girl only received one in school suspension day. Her Mother has been very cooperative since day one, because this girl has been trouble. The reason I didn't see this happening when I was in high school was because everyone was afraid of getting kicked out of school. Now, it's a slap on the wrist. Same goes for just about everything in this country.

Hey, This is my first post on a topic, so I definitely don't want to offend anyone. This is JUST MY OPINION. First, I was raised in Christian home. What this home taught me was to respect your parents, respect the law's of the land (even when you don't agree), & treat others as you would want to be treated. I did make mistakes, I sinned, and I didn't always do the right thing. But, those classic foundations have always stuck with me. Watching my Father treat my Mother with love and respect shaped me into a man that takes care of my wife, never puts her down, and would do anything to make sure she is taken care of. When it comes to others, I have a high level of respect for all opinions & differences. I respect authority. If I break the law, I KNOW there are consequences. Now, My brother & his fiance are teachers. My Wife is an Occupational Therapist who graduated from Columbia University where she experienced 6 months of field work with a mental health institution. Listening to the three of them talk back and forth last night was horrifying. My Brother's fiance was just attacked by one of her students on Thursday, and the school system is only suspending her for one day. That's it? Really? My Wife was telling me how some of these children with serious mental health issues are there because of abusive or neglectful parents. Not only do they not get the help they need, but those abusive parents still have a say in what kind of treatment their children receive. How did we become so backwards? Everyone can keep arguing in circles whether it concerns religion, access to firearms, etc. But one fact remains. This country has moved in a direction of immorality, political correctness, & lack of accountability. Children are being taught that you can get away with just about anything. I don't agree that it's always the parents fault. I've seen kids from good families acting out & breaking the rules because they know that there won't be any repercussions. Sorry for the rant, but I stand firm that this country has shaped it's own evils. We've created this monster. Hope I didn't offend anyone

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Hey All, My name is Paul and I have been checking this forum for a few months now. Thought I would join in the discussion. I have been shooting rifles for years, but just recently got into handguns.