Metalflames

I take that back I found the statue. I must become more familiar with the wording now.

Does it actually say deadly force somewhere? Not to start an argument but I dont recall ever seeing it.

. Where does it say that? I was attacked in front of a building one day, long story short he was incapacitated quickly . I was detained and told I could go because the assailant CHOSE not to press charges.There where at least 8 strangers who saw what happened and supported my story. The officer told me although he would have done the same thing It could be illegal to defend myself. To me that tells me to roll over like a dog thanks to my state laws.I agree though no need to play it safe with ammo if your life is in imminent danger.

I have found through the years that Coleman makes some of the most durable camp equipment period.What they do not make is the lightest high tech stuff. I have had tents that weigh cost close to $400 for 2 and weigh only a couple pounds packed. I had a bruiser of a Colman tent. I camped through some monster storms with that thing and it wouldn't quit. I literally had to cut a hole in it so my ex would let me buy a new one. Look for a tent with a strong bottom material that "curls" up the sides a good amount. Buy a tarp to use as a foot print for the tent. Cheaper and stronger than anything they offer as add ons with the expensive tents. This will ensure the tent lasts a long time. Make sue the rain fly comes down the length of the tent as much as possible. Lots of ventilation and I prefer dome style tents for their ability to handle winds better. Long story short Coleman offers almost all of that cheaper than anyone. If your car camping and not backpacking thats the way I would go. In fact my wife and I are expecting our first son and will be in the market for a new tent and thats were I will be looking first.

Lets face it we are in NJ, the law mind as well say curl up in the fetal position urinate your jammies and wait for the police come to draw a chalk outline around you.

Does anyone have an idea of what the other states turn outs might look like?

I can not even express how angry I am with this drivel. *(%(_#*(%#_Q#*)*Q#%)T_Q*YWQE^(T_W)I!!!!!

SO wait according to this a**hole the a gun is not a defensive weapon. It is used to intimidate. SO why are the police carrying them?

I would rather be shooting any day but that is not the point. The point is some may want to conserve because they don't want to pay out the nose and know sooner or later the price will come back down to reality. The flip side is how much a a**hole would I be if I decided to sell my stock at inflated prices? I look at this way all the guns in the world are useless if you don't have any ammo for them.

So if I have a closet full of ammo should I just go and throw it down range and HOPE I can afford to buy it tomorrow? All this because someone didn't prepare and NOW they want to go shoot.

-Colt Python (grandfather had one and left it to my cousin) - 2 more Saiga's (7.62 and .223) -Kel- tec Sub 2000 (40s&w Beretta configuration) -some kind of AR to get into

20th noted. I didn't even look.

I still don't see why any one would even buy it. It's a weed it will grow anywhere. 5 years after they legalize it we will all be bitching and moaning how crappie our lawns look because of it.

It would be next to impossible to tax and that is why I think it has taken so long to decriminalize it. Unlike tobacco one would not need a field of it to support your habit. I couldn't tell you the last time some of my friends and family have bought peppers or tomatoes. Same idea.

So the next meeting looks to be the 19th if so I believe I am going to be able to make it. Look forward to meeting some of the forum members. Any special requirements to join?

Is that a minimum of 600fps or a mandatory?

Not according to a friend of mine at Camp Lejeune. He tells me the military has taken polls on the subject (which begs the question why) who say orders are orders. Some numbers as high as 67%. Between that and that video I watched of the Blackhawks in Miami it makes me think tin foil will soon be a precious metal.

Ok I get his point but I have to say those cops seemed pretty cool to me. I couldn't even imagine what would happen if I was standing on Rt 30 with a rifle and the cops showed up.

I read the article this morning on yahoo. It make s note that any male of military age is considered to be an insurgent on foreign soil and could be a target. So basically any male. The verbiage is of course very vague regarding drone attacks in the states. I thought BA was going to have a transparent administration. So why is this a leak? How is this even legal? And more importantly why the hell would someone use drones over the percussion of special ops or swat. That is the thing that really bothers me. Oh yeah and the part that violates the constitution and says you could kill an American without a trial.

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I haven't been to SJSC but a buddy tells me it's hard to even find a place to park.

I went to the site and immediately became nauseous.

What are the pits like? Do you need a sponsor to join?

A martyr in the eyes of the media is a terrorist. A survivalist with Anti American views. A radical. An extremist. Perception is reality and the media dictates the perception.

Video gave me chills. The significance of the song is what did it. We may be nearing the point were all we fear is just one shot away.