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I am seriously considering ditching NJ, especially if Christie caves on any new laws. Sadly moving to another county wound't help because you have to have a mental health check in any county that you have lived in over the past 10 years.

Got the same letter and was so happy that he just became my congressman again after the redistricting. He had been all my life when I lived in Morris County. Finally got away from Pascral!

The township isn't failing to follow the law. They have to by law wait for the background checks to all come back, the county is the one not fulfilling the request, not the town. Non-criminal state background checks have to be destroyed after 6 months because after all you aren't a criminal and you don't want any records being kept on you do you?

Where do you shop?

I was originally just doing an address change, but since there is such a delay and with everything going on I added 3 permits to my application. No idea what I plan to buy, maybe a 1911. Will have to see what the market is like when the papers finally come through.

An FID is for buying ammo and long guns. There is a thirty day guideline for approval but the courts have upheld they can go beyond thirty days in the interest of public safety if they are waiting for a background check to come back. So in this instance you have to wait.

I can only speak to question 2. My local PD handed out a memo stating that all the records in the county were stored on index cards in a card catalog (think library) in the basement of the records building. That being said backup "copies" were stored with an archival company in Texas. They also indicated that the records were freeze dried for preservation and were in the process of being defrosted. This was all back in January. You would think that with this disaster they would be doing a conversion to something electronic so this doesn't happen again. We can only hope that is part of their plan.

You do realize it is an exclusion search. If you have any mental health records would would be disqualified. So there should be nothing for them to forward on. This was a paper archive restoration. I kind of feel like constantly nagging the adjusters office is just going to distract them from getting the system back in place. Once the system is restored the checks should start flowing out again. Hopefully they will bring in extra help to clear the backlog.

Thanks for the great news. Appreciate it.

My PD said it was a 6 month extension from the year end expiration of CCP. So he was thinking they know they won't be back up and running till June. I am hoping he is wrong.

I concur. Trying to cut in line is not the way to be going about this at all. Remember there are some people waiting in line whose lively hoods depend on these background checks getting completed so they can continue to work as armored guards. Luckily for them a state judge granted a 6 month extension to their expired carry permits in Essex because of the situation so they wouldn't lose their jobs.

What town are you in? I am in Nutley and local PD was pretty sure they were going to take 9 months to start getting them back.

Essex county did not admit to the local PD's that they had any problem until mid December, so when they told you about a month they were being honest. This is what happens when everything is stored on index cards in a basement.

It is important to note, it is not just citizens of Essex county, it is anyone who has lived in Essex in the past 10 years as well as anyone in a surrounding county who includes Essex as part of their mental health check.

I still put my paperwork in even though they said I would likely have to reapply as the fingerprint bg check is only good for six months. I am optimistic!!! Keep your thoughts positive.

Just got back from Nutley PD to put in my change of address and new PPP applications. Was told that Belleville PD had their records archived with the same company that is restoring Essex county's index cards and Belleville was told it would be 9 months for their own restoration so this could just drag on forever. Gotta love living in 2013 and people are keeping vital records on index cards.

Yeah, realized it after I asked the question. Thanks though.

How do you get your SBI number?

OK thanks for all the information, appreciate it.

Was told by my local PD that I had to start from scratch to do an address change including full background checks and fingerprints. Is this true or is he trying to dissuade me?

If it is in the same town it can be quicker, but if you have moved its like starting from scratch.

You seem surprised by this.

Well this will be a nice surprise come spring since I am in Essex county and have to sit on my thumbs till they get their mental health records back online. Going to be summer before I can buy anything.

My understanding is they are being recovered from a backup facility in Houston. Sounds like it was an archival of paper and not an electronic backup or it would be done by now. My local PD rep who does permits didn't go as far as to say it but he felt like someone should be taking legal action against the county to get things moving.