ryan_j

I've never shown anything but a FID to buy ammo, and even then you only need it for handgun ammo.

I checked a few states and I don't see any boxes that ask you if you were ever denied. States I checked were UT, FL, AZ, VA. The only state I've seen this in was NJ. As a bonus I checked NYC as well. They only ask if you have applied for one, not if you were denied. I'm not saying that some state may ask but the sampling of permit forms from popular states seems to indicate that they don't.

What are the effects of a denial of the CCW permit on any future applications for PtP or FID cards? I know you have to check the box, but are people actually being denied because they checked the box? What I'm saying is that more people would be inclined to apply if we could be reasonably assured that if turned down for a license to carry that we won't be turned down for FID or PtP. I would apply, even if I'm sure to be denied, if all it results in is that I have to check the box but doesn't actually harm my future ability to get purchase permits or FID card. And you know what? If enough people would get together and apply I think I wouldn't worry about this either. In fact when I eventually plan to exit this state, if the status quo still stands I might to apply for a license to carry first, because I'm sure I won't need a NJ FID ever again... just on principle.

The national NRA hasn't really been helping us much but the state NRA association (ANJRPC) has been hard at work. NRA is under the impression that gun laws in NJ, while bad aren't terrible. They think we have carry here (we practically don't.) I would absolutely support these pro 2A organizations though. I'm a member of NRA, GOA, ANJRPC and NJ2AS.

I enjoyed listening to all of you guys. I really wish I could have been there. Not to sound defeatist but I think that Christie is our only firewall against this. We have to concentrate on him and make sure he knows that he will lose if he lets any of this pass.

Actually vehicle carry in PA is not concealed carry. It's vehicle carry. The main difference is that you can carry in your vehicle if you have a permit from any state even if it's not valid for concealed carry in PA. Remember that PA doesn't have a concealed carry license. They have a license to carry firearms (LTCF) which is good for concealed carry and vehicle carry. The law is silent on open carry except where it prohibits it in Philadelphia.

I must say I really enjoyed listening to it. That woman was clearly in over her head. As for restrictions... I don't think they could get too bad. Yearly qualification? No problem. Just means more range time for me anyway. NICS check every month like Kentucky? Eh not a problem given how many people are buying guns these days. They could pull a move like California and allow you to carry the weapon unloaded, in which case it would be annoying. But I'd still carry out of principle. But I'm getting ahead of myself here...

I'd be fine with that. Let them do that every day. Are they going to throw gun owners in jail every day? Detain and interrogate everybody who OCs every day? Also, vehicle carry is one of the things I'm most concerned about. Yes, I would like CC but if we get OC I'll take that until we can fight for concealed carry.

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The police officer who takes 20 seconds to change a mag needs to surrender his gun and badge asap.

Ball's in orbit right now!

LOL, I KNEW that voice sounded familiar, bald middle aged jew from cherry hill with an obama sticker on his hybrid... LMAO

The guy who testified before Frank Fiamingo was awesome. Frank sounds pissed.

The TV news cameraman that just testified hit close to home for me. I work in the business and we always have threats against us. And it's not always guns. He's 100% correct.

Currently listening to it. Using Chrome for mac and flip. Scott Bach is testifying now. Go Scott go!!!

http://www.examiner.com/article/olympic-arms-cuts-off-business-to-new-york-over-gun-restrictions Looks like they're following suit like LaRue did. I wish they did exactly what LaRue did though instead of just cutting off sales entuirely. That to me would send a more powerful message.

No, it's not 3 either!!! It's two and only two. Anything beyond that is not allowed. Notarization? I don't think that's kosher either

Requirement for CCW in NJ is actually currently 3.

Did you read the guy's manifesto? He's bats***t crazy.

3 is probably "reasonable" for a CCW if this would be a shall issue state. Actually it isn't but I'd go along with that. But for a purchase permit? No effin' way.

I had trouble getting two! six? WTF?

First of all, anyone should regard NYC as a completely separate country. Don't even apply NY State firearms laws there. They have had 5 round limits on rifle clips/magazines for a long time now but it's a stealth ban (every one must be registered and they don't register anything with more than 5 round capacity.) If the guy is a Federal agent I would ask him for proof. I believe that law enforcement is/will be exempted from NY SAFE. But I still wouldn't be sure and probably not sell. If you're unsure of any of this I would just avoid.

They're probably swamped with orders and are using this to cut down.

How much of a chance does this have of passing?

This by itself shows just how stupid assault weapons bans are. I could not have said it better myself.