Alex V

Im not seeing how this is working. They are talking about magazines and semi-auto rifles with fixed magazines like the SKS. I don't see anything about handguns being made illegal simply because they can accept a magazine of over 10 rounds. I am not saying this law is fine, I just don't see what you are seeing. Am I missing something?

Yup. A blatant violation of the 5th Amendment.

I hope there is a lawsuit pending, cause by the end of the week this will be law.

Thought experiment: So the law goes into effect in a week. We all pay $50 to register our 15 round magazines. How long before the confiscation order goes out? A month? Two?

Yup. Passed my assembly. All 6 http://newjersey.news12.com/story/37813509/state-assembly-passes-6-bills-on-gun-law-restrictions

There are other ways, for sure, but a few hundred people with t-shirts and signs trying to change the minds of closed minded individuals isn't one of them. Delusions of grandeur much? I don't remember you being on the village commons in Lexington in 1775. I will gain no freedoms by what you do today. No one will. At best we get to keep what we have now, but we will gain nothing. "Singing songs and carrying signs" is a lyric from For What It's Worth by Buffalo Springfield. A protest song. It was a joke. Calm down skippy.

What I'm saying is that singing songs and carrying signs won't change the outcome tomorrow. Good of luck tomorrow guys.

What I'm saying is that singing songs and carrying signs won't change the outcome tomorrow.

Listen, you guys have fun tomorrow accomplishing nothing. I hope I'm proven wrong.

No, I'll be going to work so that I don't waste my vacation time. You totally missed the point. Oye. This douche again. Dude, calm down. Take the cock out of your mouth and breath.

Hahah. Someone is animated. Yes, we defeated the Germans and the Japanese by making signs and going to rallies. That's exactly what we did. Why are you telling me to sell my guns? I'm not the one saying we should use markers and poster board to defend our rights, you are. Might as well sell your guns and buy more crayons. Edit: and talk about projection. You are the one who has a tranny from a movie as your avatar and you are telling me to tuck my balls and put on a dress? Dude. Really? Glass houses much?

Indeed, we are done.

And what did you accomplish in 2013? All the laws were passed. You accomplished nothing. Standing with a sign is not taking a stand. It's the same stupid thing we made fun of happening yesterday. It won't work.

The voting public who overwhelmingly voted for Murphy? Come on man. I love the enthusiasm but this won't change anything. It didn't change anything last time. They still passed the laws we just got lucky with Governor Fatass for a minute. I get it, believe me, I do, but 800 people with signs won't change a thing. I hope I am wrong, I but fear I am not. No one wants to do what needs to be done, that is why I say NJ is a lost cause.

LULZ. Says the guy who is making signs instead of loading mags and grabbing his plate carrier. If one guy goes in dressed to impress, then it's it's just crazy gun nut and exactly the reason why more laws are required. If 1,000 guys go in, shit can get done. There aren't 1,000 guys to do that. So I'm not wasting my time.

Never said you guys are morons. I just feel that your efforts are misplaced. The only way to change the course of New Jersey through direct action. What is the point of a rally when the people who's opinions you are trying to change are unwilling to change their opinions? Do you genuinely believe that any politician who, tonight, has decided to vote Yes tomorrow I'll be influenced by the rally tomorrow? Really? Come on. You guys are smarter than that. I know you are.

That's why I'm going to work tomorrow and looking at property in free states. No point in wasting my time chanting and carrying signs.

Obviously they would, but crying outside like little children won't accomplish anything. Dragging the traitors out by their hair and making examples of them. Signs and chants won't reverse or slow what will happen tomorrow. Every bill will pass tomorrow and they will be signed the second they hit the governors desk. They are not afraid of your signs. They don't need your vote. There are things that all humans are afraid of however.

The only way tomorrow will work is if the people there storm the castle.

Signed up for HET2 and VET1. See you there Joe. Hopefuly it wont rain like last year. And hopefuly our guns are still legal to bring out in Aug/Sep lol

If he doesn't sign it it becomes law in 15 days on its own. He needs to VETO it.

I think $100K would be just the legal fees needed to get land use approval. An indoor range will cost about $4M to build and that is bare bones. An outdoor range could be just as expensive depending on how much cut/fill you need.

Now that the fun is over, Jack, if your township allows the owner to submit drawings, just follow R507 and you should be fine. Use 2,000 psf soil bearing capacity to calculate your footing size unless you have a GeoTech report. The Code is very prescriptive when it comes to residential construction. Provide a site plan and you should be good to go. Also, remember that depending on the composite decking you choose you may need to run joists at 12" OC instead of 16" OC. Their tech specs should have the spacing requirements. Use Simpson Strong Tie products as much as you can, especially for the railing posts. They make a real nice tension bracket to satisfy R301.5. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me.

I have a hard time telling the difference between an SSA and an SSA-E. I also have an MBT and that feels very different due to the flat face on the trigger bow. I would say that all three will give excellent results. The MBT is the cheapest and is on sale right now for $99 if you do the "I can wait" option. The SSA/SSA-E go on sale all the time in the $180 range, just have to wait for a Memorial Day or an Independence Day sale.

Except for the towns that require the drawings to be Signed and Sealed by an Architect or PE. Then those HD generated plans may as well be toilet paper. OP, if you need signed and sealed drawings shoot me a PM. I'm a Registered Architect in NJ. That's cause the ICC charges hundreds of dollars for those books.