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done same %, more votes 4% (51) 90% (1230) 6% (86)

Yes, this is what I mean. Found out that the overall number of active CCW permits in the country is 8M, that is about 2.6% of total population. So our rate of CCW holders is 200 times lower comparing to America.

I guess that most of these people thought that they had a good chance ("justifiable need"). It doesn't make them any less in my view of course. Edit: Just thought about something... The number of gun owners in NJ is probably a little over 1M. That means, that the share with CCW is about 0.1%. It would be interesting to compare with the other states, what % of gun owners have CCW? I bet it is quite different, enough prove that NJ is way out of mainstream.

Oh, you can walk there Without any deviations

Welcome! Nice location :-)

I prefer red beer. Not for political reasons :-)

Great collection, thanks!

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Welcome to the forums, neighbor! If I were you, I'd apply for FID and two or three handgun permits, it is one process, same application form. Maybe same for your wife. One handgun is never enough, you'll see for yourself. Two is the absolute minimum... Long guns - shotgun or rifle - you only need FID, no need for permit for each. For home defense, IMHO, revolver is the best, simple and reliable. My wife was at first puzzled when I bought a revolver as my first firearm, but she loved it after first try. Handgun "carry", as it was explained already - from store to home, home to range, range to home, unloaded in the trunk. Long guns - FID says that I can carry. Still I would not advise to walk around with a rifle or shotgun in NJ.

I think the critical number is not the 14% of gun owners, but the number of voters who support the Bill of Rights in its entirety. I don't know the number but I hope it is significant enough for legislators to stick his neck out.

The unreasonable fee means "only rich can protect themselves". Doesn't look good politically.

Promising news lately, something to read

Yeah, igloo... I had a different plan for this Friday, like taking my wife to the range. Valentine Day gift, a sort of. Now the question is if we can get there at all.

After the mid-day shoveling, the pile of snow on my front yard is over 6'. The will be another round of shoveling tomorrow morning, and looks like Saturday morning too. I have no idea where to move all this... :-(

Yep, more here: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/02/13/1-states-join-legal-fight-against-new-jersey-concealed-weapons-law/?intcmp=latestnews "The other states joining in the effort are Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Nebraska, New Mexico, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota and West Virginia."

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Are we twins? :-) Also GP100, but instead of CZ I have its cousin Baby Eagle. Respect both equally too.

Thanks Vlad, now I know what I've said :-) The authorities we have now would not go along with anything :-(. We're just discussing here what would be the right thing to do. How to get there is another question. Next, maybe if a crime is not severe enough to revoke voting rights, it should not revoke "FID rights"? On the other hand, if a person can't be trusted with a firearm, can he be trusted with a more consequential (IMHO) voting rights? Exactly...

"He had no ill intent" - what kind if defense is that? Does it work for everyone?

You never know... :-) Remember The Simpsons, what the scanner reads when Marge placed Maggie on the supermarket cash register belt? (It's in the opening of some episodes)

Agree 100% about "exposing". I don't suggest that there should be "FID endorsement" on the Voter ID. The Voter ID itself must be accepted instead of current FID. That is, no separate FID for voters, period. In fact, something very important in the Constitution is only for citizens - the right to vote. That's why I suggest to keep a separate FID for non-citizens, because they can't have Voter ID. BTW, I was never asked to show any form of ID for voting. Anyway, always show something, at least that voting mailer, at least to help them finding my long name...

There are no "reliable media sources". I watch Fox News, with a grain of salt.

I was told more than once that ammo should never be transported in the same container with a gun (mag or no mag). Is there a written law for this? Can't find any...

I've also voiced the idea that the gun rights should be coupled with the voting rights. If you're a US citizen, and you're not prohibited from voting (e.g. as a convicted felon or mentally incapable) - this should be enough in itself to exercise your 2A rights. Legal residents (non-citizens) should go through a different process, maybe similar what we have now in NJ, with recommendations from citizens. If you lose your right to vote, you lose 2A rights, and vice versa. Not going to discuss punishments, except that I oppose public executions.

I voted for 1911 9mm, but - why not Beretta 92FS?