Fred2

Mandatory minimums get us 5 years for stopping at the burger king on the way home from the range. It is a tool that cuts both ways. Legislators love them because they make voters think they are being tough on "gun violence".

It really should be up to a judge to rule on the evidence, and make a decision on that. Mandatory minimums deprive the judge of doing his job, and can end up being much worse.

Anything that grows here ends up being deer food.

Has anything happened in the past month?

What? No poppy seeds on the roll? No wonder youse guys call it pork roll.

So in other words, there would be a "poll tax" to exercise a right.

You need to get a NH permit, or something similar.

For the Just Pay the fine people..... Times have changed, and what was a small fine back in the day, is now an punishment that hangs around your neck forever. If Gov Christie was good with getting his tickets reduced or dismissed, there is absolutely no reason that we should not do the same thing. http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/08/neither_gov_corzine_nor_chris.html

Traffic laws are basically BS. They are a game the state plays, to make people think they are trying to keep you safe, but are designed to separate you from your money as quickly as possible. This event is going to cost you $600. The only question is do you give it to the lawyer and the court, or the insurance company and the court. Since the kid has a heavy foot, I would try to keep as many points off the license as possible. The insurance fines are worse than the ticket. and Make him buy a Valentine 1

Traffic tickets, and the related insurance points, are the "gift that keeps on giving" . If you can, hire the lawyer that is the one that plays golf with the Judge and DA.

I'm wondering if this permit policy actually makes people buy more guns.... If you have to go through all this BS to get one pistol, you might as well buy two more, right?

The next step is I get another permit and start shopping for a mouse gun.

I'm thinking this is where NJ is going to get screwed, and we win. b.Handguns. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any handgun, including any antique handgun without first having obtained a permit to carry the same as provided in N.J.S.2C:58-4, is guilty of a crime of the third degree. because.... They denied his permit and had no good reason to do so. Nappen has alluded to this as being unconstitutional, but never went anywhere with it.

I mean the decisions from the Supreme court. Heller etc. These points are referenced in this and the Sappa suit, but the lower courts ignore the decisions made by the Supreme court. It would seem like an incredible waste of time if States could just ignore supreme court rulings.

Is there a possibility that they can read the brief, and just order NJ to follow the court's previous decisions, without hearing the case?

Reading the suit, it appears that it is more about "can a state say FU to the supreme court" NJ ignores the decisions it has made. This address that issue.

As noted in the SAPPA RICO case, NJ is conspiring against us. The reason it went on so long, as it is VERY expensive to fight. Few people have the $ or legal expertise to make a case go as far as these have.

I have been reading up on this one. And, if it gets in, NJ's laws will be gutted. The case goes straight to the heart of Justifiable need, and needing a permit for a constitutional right. https://reloadone.com/us-firearm-permit-and-licensing-laws-are-facially-unconstitutional/

Allowing CCW, but ignoring the hollow point and magazine size issue, will not get Hudson et all the result that they want. It is logical that these issues be considered. Who and When is secondary.

That was my thought on it too, for reciprocity to work, we need to accept out of state gun laws, as well as their permits. Now we need is a pistol with a 30 round AR type magazine, and then those will be good to go.

I bet the dog's are thinking " What is it with people that they get such a kick out of watching me play in the snow? "

The NH permit does allow it. The NJ permit, should anyone ever capture that unicorn, allows for both. To me, this is the way is should be. You should not have to worry about getting busted for open if part of your gun peeks out when you move.

If this does go through for concealed, does it me we will automatically get open, too? I think that NJ license to carry does not differentiate.

Would you want to let NJ.com know and write about your struggle in the BAMBOOZLED stories? (just don't let them know your screen name here)

I t would be fun if the 15 round and hollow point thing was negated by this law, too.