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Thanks guys. Lalo- won't be able make this weekend, but will definitely keep my eyes open for future shootouts.

Thinking of heading over to Thunder Mountain tomorrow for the first time shooting clays. I was just wondering what is the customary or appropriate tip for the puller and instructor (as mentioned on their website)? Also, any suggestions on which would be a better gun to start out with? I have a 20 O/U and a 12 semi. I have near zero experience with clays. Thanks in advance.

I'll go against the grain here. Had my heart set on on a 686 or a used Colt Python (if I could find a reasonably priced one) for my first revolver. But instead went with a single action Ruger Vaquero in .357/38 sp and have not been disappointed. If you want something fun for the range, take a look at one of these. Be a cowboy!

Take a close look at the way the law is written. This is not about putting out a safer gun. It's about banning guns altogether. They don't care if the gun works in the real world. They only need to say it works and is available for sale so they can start the clock on preventing regular handgun sales. We can debate endlessly about whether or not it's a useful, reliable piece of equipment. It's not, and it's a distraction. Some pinhead in a back room at the capitol will just say, "Good to go!" And the AG will circle a date on his calendar that the anti's will declare as their greatest day ever. Our job is to make sure this thing never, ever comes to market.

I couldn't find an answer to this via search, so apologies if this has been discussed: I already used one of P2P's and my 30 day wait is almost up, but my question is how the days are counted. Is it start counting on the day AFTER you purchase (that day becoming day 1) and then you are able to buy again on the 30th day? Or is it the 31st day (again with the day after purchase being day 1) which would put a full 30 days IN BETWEEN purchases? The only reason I ask is because in my case it is the difference between going on a Saturday to pick up a pistol I have on layaway or Mon which would mean I would have to take a half day off. Or wait until the following Sat which I really don't want to do as I am impatient and impulsive. Thanks in advance!

+1 for what mcbethr wrote. I was in the middle of writing up pretty much the same thing. I have fairly small hands and shoot both a Beretta 92fs and a 1911 in .45. The single stack frame of the 1911 is narrower and fits my hand much better than the 92. I would also say that even though it's a .45, the felt recoil of the 1911 is about the same as the Beretta (IMHO) and I seem to control it a lot better.

I'm on my 4th, 5th and 6th gun with them (just waiting for my permits to come in) and have always been happy with the service. I don't mind paying a couple bucks more because they really go the extra mile. One observation about prices... Some items that look really high turn out to not be stock guns, so I'm not sure if it's fair to compare them against MSRP. I recently looked at a SW 686 that seemed a bit pricey, but it had aftermarket grips, sights and (supposably) a trigger job. Now you can quibble over how much that should add to the sticker, but the point is that it MAY not be the same gun you've seen elsewhere. I've bought both bone stock and "enhanced" guns from them. The stock prices seem right in line with elsewhere.

7/2/13 - 10 minutes.