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I think Ira from Legend Firearms has something to do with it....I talked to him last week and he mentioned a range I *think* in Monroe. FYI, Ira is a great guy and Legend Firearms with a range would be the best of both worlds

Nice range (so I hear) a lot of LEO's shoot at the place and tell me it's a great range, might give it a go soon.

South Jersey Shooting Club has a nice setup (Winslow). I still enjoy shooting on private property but if the noise stirs the pot I head over to SJSC (gated range, membership is $250 a year and $300 or $350 for the family).

Cool, never used them before but I'll put them in my book for go-to FFL's, I've used Whittaker Arms and Legend Firearms (long drive, but Ira is a great guy!) now I have a 3rd FFL to put down on my list for go-to guys. Thanks guys!

I did a transfer with him before, VERY nice guy to work with and I think I might use him for the Classic Firearms order I placed (he has good rates and not far from me).

This ?: http://www.nj.com/bergen/index.ssf/2014/08/police_weapons_gunpowder_ammo_seized_at_saddle_brook_home_after_stabbing.html The guy stabbed his wife, the cops show up and search the house. Lesson? Don't stab your wife?!?!?! EDIT: The wife stabbed him, lesson? NEVER GET MARRIED!

Link to a news clip/info? sorry I'm not sure what you are making reference to.

If the firearms are legal and you are not a felon or a person phohibited from owning a firearm in NJ and can produce paperwork for the firearms, why would NJSP detain and or arrest you? The local cops around here can be a real pain the in ass, the State Troopers do things by the book while local PD's like to make things up as the go along (some local PD's, not all but some).

I doubt NJSP would do that, most of the Troopers I know would lend a hand in helping someone out IF all paperwork was in order for the firearms. I would contact the NJSP Firearms Unit or visit a Troop Barracks and show my paperwork (IE I purchased the firearm/I am the owner) and I'm sure they could figure out a way to release the firearm, remeber, this could take time and in this state weeks can turn into months. Again I can't see NJSP refusing to release firearms to the rightful owner or have them sent to another FFL at the owners expense.

I'm a nice guy, I decided to give him a second chance...well he screwed himself over and I do not give people a thrid chance

THIS. A customer is about to spend money with you, and you curse the customer out and act like a dick head? sorry, not getting my money.

I'm already looking into some of the NJGF guy's that are FFL's on around in South/Central NJ. Tnx.

I've never done a FFL to FFL sale of a personal firearm, I have the buyer send me the FFL's contact info and call/email the FFL requesting a copy of the license and check it via the BATFE website. If all is good, it gets boxed up and I have UPS pickup the firearm. I know two FFL's that handle outgoing transfers, they charge around $25-$50 per firearm PLUS shipping (they have to log it in and log it out in the books and arrange shipping). Just make sure you include a copy of your DL (and copy of FPID card) with the firearm. Rifles/Shotguns can go UPS Ground, pistols I *think* are overnight only, could be wrong on that. I do not use FedEx as I have a UPS account so can't comment on FedEx. If you are looking to save on the FFL outbound transfer fees and ship direct to another FFL yourself (as I do) make sure you keep a record of the firearm (model, make, serial, etc.) and keep the original COE and a copy of the FFL you are shipping to, this way if NJSP or BATFE ever came around (ie the firearm was used in a crime or the firearm is lost in transit) you have proof of where/who it was going to.

This place was great when the previous owner had it, changed ownership about a year ago and things have gone down hill. Current owner (Joe) has a attitude problem when it comes to transfers or anything not purchased from him, the gun smithing work is nothing special and is below average (another local I know who is a LEO had the same negative experience with this shop).... Back around December/January I called asking about AR's and told him I was looking for a Colt Target Match (one of the few NJ compliant Colt AR rifles) and found one myself on Bud's, Bud's wouldn't ship it to NJ since it had a 20 or 30 rd mag and wouldn't pull the mag from the box so I asked Joe if he could find one and for what price. I get a call back that the Target Match is XXXX amount from his supplier (Bud's, go figure), I told him to give me a day to think it over (this was over a grand) and called him back the next day and asked if he would take a credit card, told me no so I said okay let me see if I can free up some cash by selling something else and I'll call you back IF I can afford to proceed with the transaction. Well, this guy takes the cake for being a hot headed pushy shop owner...I ended up getting barraged with calls the same day from him swearing at me and saying "If you want the ******* rifle call me the **** back I need to know by the end of the ******* day", after listening to 3 voice mails like this (all left minutes apart from each other) I called him back and flat out told him I did not want the rifle, simple. Nope, nothing is simple with Joe at R & R, instead he accused me of wasting his time....really? I was about to purchase a rifle from his establishment and he originally agreed with me about giving me a day to think it over and free up some funds for it (remember, no credit cards and no deal/promise was made). This guy is on a power trip...or on a trip from something else, I called today and asked about transfers rates (I purchased two SKS rifles from Classic Firearms and a Mosin)...he says "after you ****** me over the transfer cost is $145 per gun. REALLY? I "****** him over" how? I asked him what he meant and to explain: "I see you re-sell guns on gunbroker after you buy them" to which I replied "so what?" he replies "You are ******* using me to make money!" and it mushroomed into a dispute, finally he said he would do the transfer as a "favor", no I do not need "favors". Yes, I sell firearms from time to time on gunbroker when I'm done with them and want to buy something else. I DO NOT sell for a profit and usually take a loss. I called the BATFE and they said no law prohibits me from selling some of my collection as a non FFL (as I enjoy buying something, shooting it a bit and moving on to something else). I'm taking my business elsewhere, this guy is crude, rude, pushy and arrogant. If you feel like verbal abuse and exuberant prices, here you go: R & R Gunsmiths 35 W Groveland Ave, Somers Point, NJ 08244 Phone:(609) 653-9580

JT, Good point, everyone is different and everyone has different taste when it comes to firearms. If I was in the market for a HD handgun, it wouldn't be a TEC-9/AB-10 but since this is for display I would rather put that extra money towards a 22 Ruger target pistol and a wheel gun. Anyway JT, Thank you for your helpful insight and please people...let's all get along!

Thanks! I'll be looking into the blocked mags versus the 10rd mags, the blocked mags give the AB-10 the correct look and you are defiantly right, the hi-cap mags are cheap compared to the factory 10 rounders and pinning/blocking them from a guy I know is $5 per mag.

    I wouldn't be one to regret it, I've always wanted one to hang on the wall (I have a lockable wall cage). For $300 I can't complain, if I hate it I'll sell it back or I can do to get it running as close to 100% as possible. I VERY rarely shoot pistols, I VERY rarely shoot rifles/shotguns. I enjoy purchasing firearms to display/collect and shoot them once in a great while....sell them and start with something new again. I'm not a match shooter or one of those that works the firing line every week (usually 4 times per year!) I would rather collect the odds and ends (vest/pocket pistols, the AB-10's, etc.) and at the end of the day buy a good S&W wheel gun or semi for home protection.

BTW, 10 round mags exist for these, too. anyway, off to work

Thanks JT! I'm buying several different pistols and having an FFL in central/north Jersey hold them until I'm 21 in September (will apply for a pistol purchase exemption sine I'm building a pistol collection and shifting from rifles to pistols). @RUTGERS95 Purchased this for $300 including shipping to the FFL, need to send out a check and of course wait until I'm 21 w/ permits to take possession. They seem to go for $250-$400 average. I also found a out of state guy to pin the mags for me Really neat to own a AB-10, always wanted to have a TEC-9 to play with and this is as close as it gets in NJ

By standard AB-10, do you mean the TEC-9 configuration with the long barrel shroud? The AB-10 I'm looking at in the pic has no shroud. I couldn't find any AB-9 or the AB-10 "JR" versions, I've not un the up and up with intratec firearms so I have no idea...

So the one I posted is a no go? Just wanted to confirm. Sorry for the dumb question didn't want to pull the trigger and get one only to find out it's illegal

Is the AB10 legal in NJ? I know the TEC-9 is illegal (If I recall) but what about the AB-10? Here is a pic:

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