ElmerFudd

I would certainly concede to this point. Taking on the rest of your points would require a series of essays that I am not prepared to write at the moment.

I was not. Not yet. Once she toughens up a little bit more, they can get cozy. If they link up now, she's only going to get Daryl killed.

Thank you for the info. Much appreciated.

I agree that we shouldn't make laws to account for every single scenario that one could conceive of. However, I was simply making the point that private use of a gun means something very different in the city than it does in an area where there is a driveway and a garden between your home and that of the neighbor. It's kinda the same old safety vs. freedom dilemma. I absolutely want my freedom with no restrictions and I think that I deserve that but I know what kind of idiots live next door and I want someone to regulate them so that I don't have to go start some sh.... I'm just recognizing this conflict, not saying that it justifies government intrusion.

How much does it cost to use the facility and purchase clays on-site? Just trying to tally up everything as I have never been to one of these things. Definitely interested though.

Having a single large camelback (3 liters) should be enough to get you a fair distance. I've tried to drink conservatively and done around 30 miles of mountain hiking and trail running with just 2 liters so that much was doable. It's definitely more important to have a way to clean and purify a natural source. Your stores should be enough to get you to a water source without without weighing enough to hinder your movement.

This. Absolutely this, good sir. The real problem is not the training or testing requirement but the dysfunction of our government. I think this requirement would be excellent if there were not so many bureaucratic issues plaguing the law-abiding citizens of Jersey. That being said, I still have a tendency to support this if it can be swiftly followed by a greater, more persuasive, push for CCW. I'm not trying to pick a fight but I really don't understand this idea of "private use" vs. "public use" of arms as it relates to training. Maybe it's because I've always lived in urban areas or suburban areas with close or connected apartments/condos. But for me if my neighbor misuses a firearm, it affects me directly, whether they were on their private property or not. With buildings today, anything bigger than a .22 is coming through that drywall, and I'd rather not find out how fast or how far it'll go. I'd like to be able to do whatever I want in my home but in terms of training, I don't see why the need would be any different in my scenario...

I've been in this place and heard them bad mouthing customers who called or who had just walked out. Definitely a bit unpleasant as I wasn't a regular. Also, they got a big shady when I tried to sell an item there. Probably wouldn't go again unless I was strapped for cash and wanted to shoot for an hour or less. Certainly wouldn't spend any other money in there. A couple of them seemed nicer but I'd rather not take my chances. There are enough unpleasant people in the area without having to deal with rudeness and tension in a room full of guns.

Well we have an under-performing government and some overdue bills.

Anyone have experience using Precision for transfers? Website is coatyourgun.com

I get that. But I that's why I said practically. What is lawful on paper and in terms of logic does not mean "lawful" in the court room, or when your getting cuffed. I wasn't referring to the "lawful uses" portion of the statute, but rather talking about the legality of the knife in general terms. Maybe I fudged up the delivery though. My justification would be letter-opening and cutting apples/oranges. It's a shame you can't borrow a sharp knife at the convenience store

Sorry, about that. No there isn't a strict length limit but you do have to think practically that past a certain point, there are few and fewer"lawful purposes" could you claim for a bigger knife. You don't leave legality up to chance in this state and if, you're carrying a 6 inch blade, you're going to be hassled (whether that's right or wrong).

You deserve a round of applause for your strict adherence to laws of our great state.

Fair enough. I do see that as one way to interpret it but I was mainly asking if there was some sort of legally recognizable authority (legislative history, court decisions, regulations, etc..) upon which people based their statements rather than personal interpretations. See that's all well and good but I'm a member of a...."target demographic" for casual police inquiry and I'm pursuing career in law enforcement. Which basically means that I walk on legal eggshells and have to remain above board in every way. It's much easier to toe the line when people don't assume that you've already crossed it upon first sight. Thanks for the responses.

I've been tempted in some tight situations. I don't live in the best neighborhood (read:one of the worst in NJ) and there are wanna-be thugs hanging out on the streets by me quite often at night, sometimes waiting for people to try getting to their cars. The times that I've had issues with them, I get a whole new fury towards the carry laws. Seeing criminals walking around with their weapons freely while I abide by the law, to be left defenseless.... I question whether or not it's all that logical. Jail time isn't an option for me but a shot knee cap, spinal column or spleen would be worse.... I still wouldn't do it though.

So I'm confused. I've been carrying a couple of inexpensive knives for years. Never had any issues but my knives don't have any kind of spring, assisted opening function and they are within the legal length limits. Many people here seem to carry assisted-opening blades. To me, it has always seemed as though that would fall under the category of a switchblade as it opens with pressure applied to a spring after the thumb stud is pushed. Is there some authority which states otherwise? I have not been willing to risk legal action to find out.

it's not quite in direct opposition to Heller. Heller was (in small part) about the right to possess a whole class of "arms" and whether that could be denied. This is a prima facie case because technically, the class is not being denied, just an unjustifiably "unsafe" version of the "same tool" (this is how the Attorney General and NJ state legislature would be forced to frame it). This may actually be seen as more similar to magazine capacity restrictions which, according, to proponents, allow you to use the same tool in a version that cannot be easily misused. The courts have yet to strike down magazine capacity restrictions though thankfully the repeal of the 7-round limit by the the Western Dis. of NY shows that there is a small level of restraint left in these lower courts to stop them from trouncing the 2nd completely.

Yeah, you're going to need to identify the questions answered incorrectly (usually the mental health portion or the presence of some criminal charge that you thought was fully sealed up or something). And ask, the chief how they investigated the case and came to the conclusion that you should be denied. Before any of these steps, get the attorney to walk you through the process so you don't ruin your own case. If there was an investigation solely based on hearsay evidence or some negative comment from a reference, you have a strong case. Otherwise you're facing an uphill battle.

How complicated is your question? I have a very good friend who is a nutritionist and I'd be willing to relay that Q if it was a simple one. I'd just throw her answer back here. I mean a very simple question. Getting a consultation from one of the above sources will cost ya if your insurance doesn't cover it.

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I see where you are coming from man. And his logic as presented in those links isn't wrong. The truth is, if this law were not on the books in NJ I would hope that no one would lash out at this guy or Armatix at all. People should have the choice to try out the new (likely more unreliable) technology if they so choose. I would be interested to see and use it myself even though I wouldn't buy one. That being said, knowing that giving people a choice about buying it, will take the power of choice away from NJ residents creates a significant moral dilemma that he seems to discount. I feel that it may deserve more serious scrutiny than he really gives it. And he also needs to give more realistic consideration to the ability to legislate for 2A rights or to overturn these kinds of statutes. If the gun is operated via RFID (Radio Frequency Identification), that qualifies as "frequency tagging" which is listed in the statute. There is nothing saying it has to be biologically linked to a person or group of people. The argument that this doesn't qualify as a smart gun under the statute is a losing one at best... The argument that this qualifies as having the right to keep and bear arms "infringed" upon (pursuant to the 2nd Amendment w/ some Supremacy Clause flavoring)? Good to go.

If you want to get some use out of those things Exactly what I was going to say. I bring most of the supplies for camping anyway, and you just put the rest back in afterwards. For some things, you may need to keep replenishing your supply after outdoor use (firestarters, paracord, etc..) but the most important things (knife, bag itself) should just need regular maintenance.

This. While you're going to fight back and try to survive for as long as possible just because it's a natural instinct, if things get to that point, the prospect of living will be pretty bleak anyway.

I can get behind that. And at the end of the day, the responsibility falls on those people to do whatever they can and to change that situation. That being said, I'd like to see what could happen if all of these people were properly educated. I believe fall education standards has created most, if not all of this country's problems. While I absolutely believe that many of those abusers would continue to do so under any circumstances, I also believe that many of them have never been taught another way. I taught in Philly for a little while and saw kid and their parents regarding food stamps as if it was regular currency that everyone just used. These kids would then go to school where they had this reinforced by their friends, while their teachers expressed little faith that they would have a different fate. With a cycle that screwed up, many of these people don't see the other side as they haven't been exposed to the value of hard work as some of us more fortunate individuals have. For that reason, I think almost all government aid programs should be paired with some form of educational/skills-based training, or some contact with a social worker who can actually make sure that the person is able to turn themselves around or push through and move forward as you have. Otherwise we just wait for droves to inevitably abuse the system or burden society by joining our ever-growing, extremely-flawed prison system.

While I agree that collecting unemployment when you have the capacity to work can be immoral, you're forgetting that a lot of people who attempt to work in a position of underemployment get turned away because they are over-qualified or it seems as though they will just leave as soon as something else comes along. There isn't some huge surplus of jobs for every person and is unemployed so employers do have their "pick of the litter" in times of economic downturn. Which means that those people may be unable to find a 75k position, and all the 30k positions refuse them, knowing that these people will feel under-compensated. At my last job, when my supervisor was hiring for a new person to fill an entry or mid-level position, I watched him literally glance at and throw out resumes of people who had been in the field for 15 to 30 years for only that reason. That's just anecdotal and does not prove anything but I just wanted to highlight the way that I've personally observed it. Also, it may be a bit harder to explain to another employer that you went to work at Burger King after leaving your position as a Software Analyst and that you're ready to back into your field. Couple the prospect of long term minimum-wage with increasing amounts of student loan debt (and terrible interest rates in general) and you end up with people who may have a real predicament on their hands....