mikka1

Quick update: 1) Paramus - they ran out of 22lr and as the guy told me, I got the LAST brick of 22lr they had in the store. Mind that they closed at 11pm! They will open tomorrow morning. They had some 11-87 in stock, both in synthetic and in wood. 2) Union - they suspended sales of ammo and firearms until morning. Why? Because they don't have ANYONE in the store who has license to sell anything firearm related since 10pm Thursday. Yes. You read it right. Black Friday night, nationwide promo, an event the whole retail industry prepares for months in advance. And. they. do. not. have. a. single. licensed. person. in. the. store. No comments. (but though they have some bricks of 22lr on the shelf - I saw at least a dozen of Federal 525rds packs and some Winchester 555rds packs. 3) Woodbridge. They had a LOT of 22lr in stock at midnight, but mostly Remington 500 rds Thunderbolt packs. I'd say they had at least 150-200 bricks the moment I've been there and there was no single person in a line.

Any updates? Worth driving?

It would've sounded better if ... "Buy 2 boxes of ammo at regular price and get the third 50% off. Restrictions apply. 22lr ammo is limited to 2 boxes per person" (p.s. This is a JOKE ^^. I hope it's not true, LOL)

LOL. I waited for someone to post this as I didn't want to be first )

So do I. The best price for NJ-compliant 15-22 so far that I've seen for Black Friday was $340+tax in Heritage Guild flyer. I still want to see what Tanners and probably Sportsman Outdoor Superstore would offer. Boo, did you have a lightweight version of GSG or a "full-weight" one? I handled a "full-weight" one at a gun show recently and I very much liked its feel. It's normally a little more expensive than a lightweight one... still, the price with PSA is great, the only pity is that it has a 22rd mag :-( I heard those are pretty hard to work on to make NJ-compliant...

Krdshrk, I am by no means an expert in rifles, but I would strongly agree with vfj915 - it basically took me 15 minutes playing with 770 to realize that I'd better save some money and buy 700 or Savage instead. I don't even know how to properly explain this in plain words. It's just rough - the way how bolt moves, the way how it shoots, the finish... On the other hand, for $200 you seriously have nothing to lose. If you don't like it, I guess you can sell it a month later even with some profit.

C'mon, this is straight BS. I am Russian (if someone has not yet figured this) and visit Russia 3-4 times a year for prolonged periods of time. Ministry of Interior has already issued a statement that the way news agencies reported those changes is... well... a little misinforming (not surprising really with the way how many journalists work these days). In essence, there is still no "real" handguns allowed for carry and even purchase unless you are on the job and/or has a special permission (and I know quite a few pretty rich and relatively connected people and to my best knowledge none of them had a "real" handgun, at least a legal one, LOL). The only types of handguns that were and still are allowed in Russia are so called "traumatic" handguns chambered for rubber bullets and "gas handguns" that are basically sophisticated spraying devices - and even to get those you need to undergo a procedure that from the efforts point of view is pretty similar to obtaining FID in NJ (maybe even more complicated). So, bottom line, no sensation, even NJ gun laws are still better than Russian ones )

So, just a quick update - returned from my trip to Florida - used this chance to hand over my wife's application for FL CCW to one of their regional offices in Miami Dade county plus enjoyed some sun instead of NJ cold and rain... Flying with a handgun was extremely easy (or I just got lucky, who knows), though the experience in two airports was slightly different. In Newark the lady at the American counter clearly knew what she was doing when I informed her about the firearm, but the fact that she was probably an extreme anti shined very explicitly. She quickly filled in the declaration paper, gave it to me to sign and then asked to put it in the same bag with the gun case and put the bag on the scale. No looking at the gun or its case, no other questions, just asked to wait 5 minutes nearby in case TSA has some questions to me. Surprisingly my experience in Miami was a little different - lady at the counter there seemed to barely know the proper procedure. She had to go to the other officer to get paper declaration forms (she didn't have any at her counter), then she asked to open a case and show her a handgun for "her to check if it was unloaded". Okay, I removed the lock and opened a case - 2 seconds glimpse on my Glock - "okay, okay, close and lock it". SStill wondering if she was such a pro to notice the position of "chamber loaded" indicator in 2 seconds or if she didn't care at all... She also asked how many rounds of ammunition EXACTLY I had with me in bags and later suggested to put the declaration INSIDE the box and was very surprised when I told her that the lock was not a TSA-approved lock. She also tried to charge me $50 for bags despite my Platinum status with AA and free bags coming with it, so I guess she was just an example of how not to do anything properly... Later in Newark I noticed that the bag has been manually searched by TSA (found a piece of paper inside saying this), but the gun case and lock on it were intact... Bottom line - my concerns around flying with handgun were probably just fruits of my vivid imagination - apparently nobody cares

S&W MP15-22 in NJ-legal configuration for $360 or less (Tanners, Tanners... I missed it the last time) GSG 522 as a possible option for a 22lr rifle instead of MP15-22 (or together with it, I actully liked them both) Savage MKII FVSR 22LR Bolt-action with a threaded barrel for $230 or less before any mail-in rebates Any good deals on full-size or competition-size Glocks Gen4, used or new (Glock Gen4 17/22 or 34/35), anything $450-ish or lower for new and $350-ish or lower for used Alternatively, if there is a good sale on HK VP9 I might jump on it... I'm not asking for 22lr ammo this time because if Gander Mountain somehow sends me all the 22lr ammo I currently managed to backorder from them over November, I'll become the local 22lr king, LOL )) (okay, okay, definitely not a king, but if it all comes and orders are not cancelled I won't need to think about 22lr ammo for at least half a year or so...)

dman2112, may I ask have you actually bought this Anschutz? If so, 1) do you like it? 2) how much (and how hard) was the compliance work on it? I am looking at this promo @ CDNN for quite some time already trying to choose between this Anschutz and MP15-22, so your input would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

Just thought you might be interested in some nice (at least in my opinion) deals on "entry-level" 1911s that I ran into recently while browsing other offers on slickguns and other sources. Sorry if you think it's not worth posting here ------------------------ 1) Remington 1911 R1 in .45ACP (96323, UPC: 885293963238) - $425 http://grabagun.com/catalog/product/view/id/4320 $500 minus $75 MIR = ~$425 + $6 shipping ------------------------ 2) Para Ordnance 1911 in .45ACP (96746, UPC: 770752967462) - $350 http://grabagun.com/para-ordnance-usa-96746-expert-1911-pistol.html $450 minus $100 MIR = ~$350 + $6 shipping ------------------------ 3) Para Ordnance Expert 1911 in 9mm (96749, UPC: 770752967493) - $365 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/90836 $463.50 minus $100 MIR = ~$365 (or $350 if you pay with a check or account debit, not a credit card) ------------------------ P.S. I keep reminding everyone that if you have Discover credit card don't forget that Q4 is an "online shopping quarter" and you can get 5% cash back on all your online purchases up to total amount of $1500 thus effectively reducing already low prices above by another 5% and offsetting shipping cost and a part of a transfer fee :-). Using this card on Remington R1, for example, will bring you back around $21 in cashback. P.P.S. I have Remington R1 that I bought this summer for the same price and I really like this gun. It is definitely not a fancy gun making people say "WOW", but it is build nicely, shoots well and does not break a bank :-) I am seriously considering getting Para in 9mm now...

Damn, why I haven't seen this at 3pm today...

Thanks, and couple of more practical questions: 1) How do you lock Glock cases, LOL? :-) I have 2 glocks and neither of the cases has holes to put a padlock on. Contrary to that my SIG & CZ cases have those holes, so I am likely going with a SIG one... 2) Do you need to put a cable lock on a gun itself (that is put in a container)? 3) Can you put a small hard box of ammo (holding 20 rounds, the one defense rounds are sold in) to the same container with the gun, or does it need to be separate from the gun? 4) Is it a requirement to secure the container to the luggage or is this just a "common sense" practice? I'm normally traveling with a soft duffel and scratching my head now on how to secure something to a soft bag... Thanks again!

Yeah, got it, thanks, again it was a stupid idea on my side to ask something similar here. My bad, should've better learned the lesson around a year ago asking something similar

I very much hope it's just a beginning of this year's Black Friday craze and similar or even better deals will be popping up here and there. I guess I need to put away at least $1000 as a "firearms fund", LOL

Damn, Glock 35 Gen 4 new for $450 + $25 shipping (and +40 transfer) minus $22 Discover Cashback. ~$500 out of the door without any GSSF coupons or stuff. Please cut my internet wire now or make it go OOS or I might not keep resisting the temptation )))

I wouldn't either and I currently have a booking to EWR, but I know how some weekend bookings from Florida are so overbooked that they might give you some voucher and seat in a plane flying to LGA (AA has much more flights to LGA than to EWR every day). Normally I might be even happy (if the voucher amount is decent), but in case with a handgun I'm just trying to understand if I am committing a crime outright or if I am doing something unclear or if I am generally fine unless faced by an overzealous LEO...

Guys, just a quick question that literally popped up several minutes ago. I am flying out from Newark to Miami most likely with my handgun with me and as far as I see from your posts above, this seems to cause no big issues. My current flight back is pre-booked as Miami -> Newark, but there is a great chance I might have to take another flight to LGA or JFK depending on seats availability. In normal circumstances I wouldn't really care about this and consider as a minor hassle with extra hour spent on my way back, but what about FLYING IN to LGA with a handgun? I read scary stories about people having issues trying to check in guns on their way from LGA to other locations, but how about flying IN to New York? Any experience on that? P.S. I am still inclined to have my gun with me anyway, just trying to figure out if there are proven negative examples that this particular thing should be avoided. Thanks!

I'd say you are gtg, if 1) all alterations are done outside of the jurisdiction where the mag in its current form is illegal (i.e. you buy the mag in Pennsy and alter it there or in VA or anywhere else where it is legal for you to possess it) 2) alterations are done in such a manner that they are reasonably considered to be "permanent" and "irreversible" IANAL, but I can spend hours arguing about #2 that pretty much any alterations can be reversed with the proper tools and techniques, but this discussion will be just a waste of time. Everyone decides for himself/herself on what is acceptable. So far I was able to open all pinned pistol mags I currently have for cleaning with very few tools and without damaging those mags - that said, they are definitely not "permanently altered" while NJ dealers still sell them.

Let me answer provocatively (to boost the discussion, of course) :-) 1) I seriously think it doesn't really matter what will be your first handgun - once you are in the game, it is very unlikely you ever stop. Of course, we all have different financial opportunities, someone buys new guns every month while others do it once or twice a year trading in the old ones, but once you are in, there ALWAYS will be something you try out at the range / see at the match that will make you say "WOW! I want this beast!". That said, go with any gun you are relatively comfortable shooting now and that fits your budget. I am pretty sure in 1 year time your understanding of guns will be at the very different level and you will be looking for other things than you look at now while choosing a gun. 2) I expect to be heavily criticized for my next statement, but I'll still say this - skip the part about the training now and use saved money (up to $200-250 if we are talking about NRA Basic, for example) towards another gun or just ammo. Formal training IS indeed extremely important, but I strongly believe (at least from my VERY limited experience - I'm a relatively beginner here shooting for less than 1 year) that in order for the training to be as efficient as possible you need to be intimately familiar with your firearm, you need to feel it, be able to reload it pretty much with closed eyes, have some bruises and scratches on your hands from its action and get used to the trigger pull etc. etc.. Please feel free to disregard this comment if you are not comfortable with familiarizing yourself with the gun on your own (but given you are renting guns it seems that you have no issues here). I am almost sure in 6 months time you'd be looking at things differently and might be coming to a course already with specific questions in your mind (or consider a different course)...

I guess it might be worthwhile to kind of "merge" two threads - another thread of interest might be - http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/73109-dicks-10-off-of-25-coupon/

Jfoster99, there was a nice guy at the register who said something like "if it doesn't scan, I'll give you this discount manually". He then did a lot of things with the coupon scanning it 2 or 3 times (and the scanner beeped, so apparently it scanned), then doing something on his touchscreen, but the result was a $10 discount in the end... So I can't really confirm if this coupon works automatically or requires some efforts from the store clerk...

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RTSP usually has Glock full-size mags blocked to hold only 15 rds, but I would suggest you call them first to check if those are in stock. P.S. You mean USPSA in CJ, I guess?

Again, if I interpret the "spirit of the law" correctly, it applies only to mags initially suitable of holding more than 15 rounds, but then modified to hold 15 rounds or less. That said, technically Mec-Gar magazines are out of the scope of this, because they have *from the very beginning* been manufactured to hold 15 rounds - and nobody really cares how they have been manufactured, even if you can easily extend their capacity without any serious efforts. If we apply the same logic to HEX Mags - as long as they hold 15 rounds the moment they left the manufacturer and as long as they are clearly marked as "15rds magazines" by this manufacturer it should be nobody's business how exactly this manufacturer achieved it. Anyways, as I mentioned numerous times before, I'm totally convinced that if your mags are somehow scrutinized by authorities with regards to how many rounds they hold, you are already deeply screwed. But that's just my IMO. P.S. I seriously think that capacity restriction is one of the dumbest and one of the most ambiguous things on earth. Maybe it can only be compared in its dumbness with considering a collapsible stock an "evil feature"...