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Precisely! It's why things like that which the OP reported occur. Because people who grew up in/live in free states have absolutely no idea what it is like, and are thus, by default, "in denial." And that's when the get caught. The Australian guy is absolutely correct. We must never give up those rights, and we must fight to ensure they are not "mis-interpreted" to our determent.

They won't.... trust me. Certainly not the State Govts. Maybe private carry orgs (like GOA, State equivalents of NJ2AS, etc.) will rally. But the "reward" has to be greater than the "risk." And the risk here would be the backlash from MDA type groups, etc., and the voters that support them. The reward would be the support of pro-2A folks in re: getting the right people elected to office, or the addl. contributions and memberships to the private orgs. Do the math... do we have the numbers that offer that kind of "active" support?

That's not true at all. We care deeply... because what happens in states like NJ doesn't stay in states like NJ! It finds its way down here, with all the people who migrate down here with their liberal ideas on how a state should run... We also don't want our FL citizens to be subject to that kind of trouble unnecessarily. We are always trying to educate FL folks on the dangers of bringing weapons into NJ in violation of NJ law. Trust me. We care.

I get why you want to take this approach, but I'm not so sure it would be all that effective, and it would cost the "object of the exercise" their liberty while waiting for that magic to happen. The help certainly won't come from any of the Govts. of those Southern States. Heck, here in FL, we couldn't even get OC passed nor any significant pro-2A legislation passed last year and won't again this year.... all because of one FL Senator who wants to run for Mayor of Miami-Dade gumming up the works in the Judiciary committee. This with help from MDA, the FRF (Florida Retail Federation) and "The Rodent..." As more liberals migrate from up Northeast and into Miami from Puerto Rico, Florida turns more blue every day. Many of the FL House or Reps are carpetbaggers from NY and two of them are retired NYPD detectives... And, besides, the libertarian in me would not want to see anyone jailed, losing their liberty just to prove a point that probably can't be proven. I think the best approach is education. I'm on my Florida gun forums every day, warning people not to bring weapons into NJ... unless they are "in transit" via FOPA rules or moving here permanently, per NJ law exemptions. The problem being, most people who live in and were raised in "Free states" simply can't comprehend what it's like to live in NJ and be subject to all these restrictions. It just doesn't occur to them that a State Govt. could act like this. They live in "denial." Then they get caught. It sucks. But having a bunch of "sacrificial lambs" is not the way, either.

For me, it would be (and was) the I-78 bridge over the Delaware Riv. into Easton PA.

Welcome from Tampa Bay, Florida, from a former NJ'ian who spent his "Wonder Bread" years growing up in Glen Ridge!

Precisely. As I've stated previously, even if "National Reciprocity" were to be passed by the Federal Govt., states like NJ will find ways around it, or simply ignore it altogether. "So Sue us..." will be the mindset... knowing that no single entity has the legal and financial resources to do so against the State Govt. which can tie things up in the courts far beyond the remainder of my lifetime (I'd imagine). And imagine if the Soros' of the world pitch in as well... Definitely a Herculean effort. The only way I believe to get states like NJ to comply would be to tie the "federal funding" it receives for various projects to compliance with any such reciprocity law... just as they did for raising the drinking age to 21 (tied to Federal highway funds). That might not be "legal" now, but they should restore it.

Not necessarily "rich..." Not these days.... more like "upper/middle class..." and more towards the "middle" than the "upper." There's actually a heavy Asian influence in Leonia (Korean, in fact). The Japanese are in Ft. Lee and Edgewater. The "rich" town is nearby in "Englewood Cliffs." There's also some "old money rich" in the City of Englewood, itself.

As was Anthony Colandro on "Gun for Hire Radio." He really came to Shannen's aid! Bravo Zulu Ant!

According to "dictionary.com" Clemency noun, plural clemencies. 1. the quality of being clement; disposition to show forbearance, compassion, or forgiveness in judging or punishing; leniency; mercy. 2. an act or deed showing mercy or leniency. 3. (of the weather) mildness or temperateness. ==================================================================== Thus, "clemency" might be something akin to a "commutation of sentence" or a reduction in the sentence or charges or things like that. It won't erase any prior actions taken against the defendant (i.e. arrest, trial, convction, adjudication). A full "pardon," in most cases, does expunge those prior actions, as if they never happened.

I would think that Governors can pardon state matters, whereas Presidents can pardon federal matters as well. Gov. Christie's pardon of Shaneen Allen is a "pardon" in all contexts. This, and I also believe one can be pardoned even prior to a conviction... as President Ford did with Nixon.

And if it weren't for Evan Nappen exposing the prosecutor (who granted PTI to Ray Rice), she might never have been granted PTI. Initially, the prosecutor wasn't going to do it!

Yes, it is, kinda.... Let's put it this way.... for the sake of "symbolism..." It's where Alan Alda lived and raised his daughters while in NJ. I should know... I went to HS with two of them. It's also where Anthony Bourdain grew up. And I went to the same school he did (and with his younger brother).

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/12/27/new-jersey-community-to-fine-out-town-drivers-in-attempt-to-decrease-traffic.html Apparently, the Borough of Leonia is "getting tough..." on some drivers. I gather they (drivers) are attempting to avoid the traffic snarls of the I-80/I-95 Rt. 4 merge by exiting at Exit 71 (Degraw Ave) and going up Fort Lee Rd. to the bridge.. I grew up in this area (in Englewood) so I'm very familiar. I used to get much of my takeout (Chicken/Pizza/Chinese) in Leonia on Broad Ave. Trust me, I do get why they want to do it. But do they really think they can get away with this... legally?

I have the DVDs so I don't need the cable tv. I liked the show as well. And, what truly tells me that the show and the character had merit was the fact that the US Marine Corps also liked both the show and character. So much so, that "Gomer Pyle" received two honorary promotions by the Marine Corps... first to Lance Cpl, and later to Corporal. And Jim Nabors honored that honor by showing up to both ceremonies and receiving both in person.

Which is why OC won't work in NJ even if it were signed into law, tomorrow. It will take some "cultural evolution/conditioning" to make it "effective." The only weapons allowed to be displayed openly in NJ are those with a shield/star near it. Otherwise, there would be a lot of "SWATing" by citizens, and stops by LEOs.

Assuming you get far enough to dial and get the operator to answer...

They may not be able to seize it, but they might prohibit you from using it. I could see a LEO arguing it as a safety issue (i.e. the detainee calling for "re-enforcements" against the LEO)... similarly to a LEO disarming someone who is carrying concealed. I could definitely see a LEO challenging its use during a stop for a number of reasons. As someone who could be stopped, I certainly would not want to be making any "furtive movements" while stopped I would keep my hands in plain view, rather than fumbling around for a cell phone. Who knows how the LEO might interpret those movements?

But how would you do that if the LEO has already taken control of the scene and you? Do you really think said LEO would allow you to make any phone call(s) while they've stopped you (or have you "in detainment")? I do agree that one should never give consent to search... even if it means staying out there, cold & freezing, etc. Suffer all the intimidation tactics but never give up, or give in. If they don't have PC they can't do a legal search, and they know it. You just have to convince them that you know it also! And, it might also help to have some Go pros in/around your car that are concealed to collect evidence... evidence you can use against the LEOs when you sue for false arrest and/or illegal detainment, etc.

Unfortunately, I still have some family in Hunterdon County (Mom, sister and her family), and I might have to go back for a quick visit. But when I do, there are things I can do to mitigate the risks... I can fly into LVI airport and rent a local car with Penn. plates, etc. I can enter NJ vi I-78 E (I never saw any patrols there)... In and out (I'd stay locally in the Allentown/Bethlehem area). And, for the above reasons, If I do drive my own car, I don't put *any* decals for anything on my vehicle. Not a single one. Only my plate registration decal on the plate itself. I have generic "Sunshine Sate" plates (no IGWT or county, etc.) and not personalized at all.

It sounds like the Easton PA Fireworks stores along I-78 have nothing to worry about... Florida, I've discovered, has some quirks in their fireworks laws that allow the stores to exist and sell them, but the buyer has to sign some kind of waiver that they are being used for "appropriate uses within the law." Setting them off in your back yard (or the front) for celebratory purposes is *not* an appropriate use. Technically, only Sparklers, fountains, snakes and glow worms can be sold legally to consumers for "celebratory" purposes. Still, there are a ton of fireworks stores all over the place that sell everything. See this article on Florida Fireworks laws.

Hope everyone had a safe one.

Amazon LLC has "tax nexus" in NJ due to the warehouses it built there. They've been there for quite some time. So it has to charge sales tax for any orders shipped to NJ addresses. Same thing in Florida. It's why, probably, Amazon got all kinds of incentives by the state govts. for building the warehouses in those states. Thus, anything sold by Amazon LLC itself will incur sales tax if shipped to a state where it has tax nexus. If the item is sold by a partner (but "fulfilled by Amazon") and that partner does not have tax nexus in the state to which the merchandise is being shipped, then it might not incur sales tax, or if it's a full 3rd party merchant, etc. that doesn't have tax nexus in NJ. As for Cabelas, could it be that they also built some facility in NJ that would give it tax nexus, or perhaps the merger has completed enough that there is only one corporate entity with merged assets that would also give tax nexus to Cabelas? To be honest, I was wondering where this merger stood, as I'd figure that Bass Pro would, eventually, consume the Cabela's brand and make them all Bass Pro, and that hasn't seemed to have happened.... not yet.

Mary Ann....

Welcome from Tampa Bay, Florida, from a former NJ'an. I spent my "Wonder Bread" years, growing up in Essex County (Glen Ridge).