Eric.

Hold it, no one told him to go out and spend top dollar to buy the high end stuff. If anything, several of teh posters are trying to tell him that if he wants precision, then he might need to spend more than $600 otherwise he might be better off with what he already has. If you recall, he's looking to build an upgrade rifle OVER what he already has: Post 15 http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/79412-i-want-to-build-an-ar-15m4-need-help/?p=1009654

I would add in White Oak Arms too: Mid length: https://www.whiteoakarmament.com/xcart/product.php?productid=17567&cat=312&page=1 Rifle length: https://www.whiteoakarmament.com/xcart/product.php?productid=17518&cat=312&page=1

Look, there's no need to be a dick. If you disagree, state your reasons. One thing I will question (again) is that you claim to shoot sub MOA with 55gr ball ammo, at 300 yds with your Oly. IF you are putting 5 or 10 shot sub MOA groups "all day long", then you might know something nobody else knows.

Brian, I'll make another thread and PM the guys that post here, looking for Varget. Eric

I don't own an Oly. Then again, I've never owned a Yugo(car) either. Maybe Oly did have some quality improvements. Thing is, if that were the case, then everyone would be buying Oly's but "they" aren't. Why? Well, again, cheap, high quality and precision don't fit in the same sentence when we are talking about guns. High quality AND precision costs a lil more. Now, I'm not saying that the OP can't get a decent level of precision AND quality for a certain price but for the most part, it doesnt come in under $800. Tasco scopes are garbage. The glass quality is sketchy and they can have issues holding a good zero. The turrets may not track accurately and don't last with long term use/abuse. Oh, if you are shooting sub MOA with cheap, 55gr ball ammo at 300 yds, I'm a bit doubtful. I hope you're not too offended, but in my shooting experience, it aint happening.

With all due respect, Olympic Arms is kinda sketchy, quality-wise. Here's an old thread from Arfcom: https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=326624 Also, I would question what the seller means by "fantastic trigger job"? Hopefully, it isnt a home sandpaper job. The Tasco 6x24-42 scope is garbage. It might not be good enough for 600 yards, let alone hold a decent zero. Lastly, a 1-9 twist barrel won't stabilize the heavier bullets i.e. 77 gr pills, that are used for longer range shooting. Like I said, cheap, quality and precision. You only get to pick two.

I think having two uppers might be your best bet. Just make sure you have a good trigger, since you will be using the same lower assy for both. To add to what others have said, there are a lot of choices and knowing exactly what your intended use will be, will help you to not waste money on stuff you don't need. *Edit- You did specify long range target shooting, originally, so disregard the two uppers suggestion and go directly to tapping your kid's college fund for the precision barrels, free float rail, et al. For 600 yard work, you will need to spend a lil more. Like the saying goes, there is cheap, high quality and precision but you only get two outta three. Here is a spare upper I have that is suited for precision work. I have an Aero upper, Rubber City BCG, LaRue 16" 1-8 twist barrel, mid length gas and a 12" Sampson Evolution free float hand guard with Magpul MBUS sights. I use this when I want a lighter set up and thinner handguard. If I want to run an optic, I have some glass on Bobro QD mounts, so I jsut snap em on. This upper is a genuine sub MOA setup (just under 1 MOA, all day). For a setup like that, it's gonna run ya around $750 to $850 (I forgot what I paid in total). You might be able to do something similar, for a hundo or two less, but thats really reaching.

Agreed. Im in for a case of both.

Dammit. Varget seems to be out in a lot of places. I should start a Varget group buy when it is back in stock. Looks like im in for 1000 Remington small and large rifle primers. Thanks, Eric

Im looking for 8lbs of Varget and 8lbs of H4350. Also, need 1000 of both small and large rifle primers.

Damn, you made your post a few minutes before mine, lol http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/79547-group-powder-and-primer-buy/#entry1011520 Im interested. I need powder and primers too.

Anyone interested in a group buy? In addition to possibly getting better pricing, we can spread the hazmat fee and shipping fee out some.

Im headed to R14 later today(Sun). Prolly around 1p.

Yes, that is the poor mans Geissele trigger. It might be the best custom trigger in that price range and very comparable to triggers costing 3x as much. Its about a 5.5 lb pull which is a lil heavy for serious precision work, but much better than the 8-9lb pull of a mil spec trigger that you get in mass LPK packages.

Its very similar to a Henry too, hence "Henry-like". Henry was the original design and Winchester came out with the similar design a bunch of years later. I guess the point i was trying to make is that i love guns from that era. .44-40?

Awesome. Someone should post a link to his interview on Tosh.0, lol. *Edit- Interview on tosh.0: https://youtu.be/Z8YEnirsf5U?t=127 Eric

I haven't read this whole thread but how many times has Tex Grebner made an appearance?

The Recce (recon rifle) is set up with a 16" barrel and a low power optic. Typically a 1-4 variable. The intended use was a precision fighting carbine. Basically, an accurized M4. That said, with todays options, I like a 1-6 variable with an illuminated reticle. I have a razor hd too but have been considering the Vortex Strike Eagle. I haven't tried it in bright sunlight, as I've read that some ppl feel it isn't quite bright enough on the high setting, but if it looks good, I'm buying one. Also, I like a variable with a true 1x and not a 1.5 ala Leupold.

More like "bubble". Has anyone successfully pinned a bubble??

Agreed. Most AR's don't have much appreciation potential, there were just too many made. The only reason I choose to keep my Bushy stock is personal. I like the classic look, the gun represents a certain period of time (AWB era) and it was made when the only big AR manufacturers were ABC (armalite, bushmaster, colt). Also, the Bushy was made in Windham, before Freedom Group took over. So, while it might not go up in value, to me, its worth leaving stock. For that matter, my AR's that get used are all built from generic pieces i.e. Aero receivers, custom barrels, etc. If I wear something out, F-it, just buy another part and move forward. I'm not sourcing any original, factory parts.

DEfinitely keep it stock. I have the same rifle- post ban XM15 Bushy, A3 flat top and HBAR 1-9 barrel. It was my first AR. I bought it after they passed the Assault Gun ban. I guess that would be 1994 (back when Bushy made a good product).

One of my uppers is running a Samson Evolution rail that is FF and uses the mil spec barrel nut too. It has anti rotation tabs too which is also important.

Feed lips speading too much on the mags? Open the receiver and cycle the bcg by hand. It should move freely without binding and no excessive side play. Try a GI steel mag. More importantly, only change on thing at a time, to isolate the issue.

I read the link but didnt see anything relating to the substrate metal being damaged by the coating process. The only thing I got was in regards to the actual nickel plating: "Tensile stress in a coating always diminishes tensile strength and since the coating is brittle, cracking can occur. Tensile cracks ruin the corrosion resistance and flakes may break away. Coating performance can be excellent if the stress is compressive." Just to add, NP3 and Nickel Boron are distinctly different coatings. NiBoron is sort of like chrome plating. It's hard and subject to peeling or flaking upon failure. NP3 tends to break down into much finer particles. The Robar site has a comparison study of the two coatings: https://robarguns.com/blog/2013/08/23/np3-vs-nickel-boron/

True, but at that price, he can unscrew the FH and just screw on a thread protector, and still be way ahead. For that matter, sell the FH on arfcom for, like, $30, lol.