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See my recent posts in "just got back from Afghanistan" thread about military and CCW in this state. I got as far as applying at my local SP barracks and besides being told by the poor shmuck in charge of firearms ID cards/purchase permits that I'd never be approved with ISIS being my justification, he said that if I did apply I'd need an FID and I'd need to qualify on the exact handgun I planned to carry (down to the serial #) every 6 months!! I've never bought the handgun I plan to carry (G43) yet because I'm going on 8 months since applying for a purchase permit that I haven't been able to use yet (a whole'nother story). Needless to say I'm not a huge fan of the folks at the NJSP when it comes to the seriousness of this matter (or lack there of). They make up their own rules and do whatever they want at their pace; not yours. Having been in the military for almost 14 years, I'm fairly seasoned on what a "run-around" is, but I can tell you dealing with this horse $hit is ridiculous. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

There was talk several pages back about leadership not wanting to take responsibility for pushing this up the chain. I had heard the unit JAG recommended they not get involved so it never went anywhere. If we do anything, we'll have to take matters into our own hands. The problem is there are plenty of other anti-gun issues in this state to deal with given the responsibilities of carrying a concealed weapon here. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

Yes. On my AF 523 - Authorization to Bear Arms, I have a note on the back that says, M-9 Concealed. I am aircrew and we are supposed to carry concealed for anti-hijacking purposes during certain PAX hauling missions. Not all mil members are allowed to conceal carry. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

and... supposedly to hold a CCW in this state, you need to qual every 6 months on the specific weapon you are approved to carry.

Went to my local NJSP barracks to apply for a CCW last summer. I am active NJ Air National Guard, qual'd on an M-9 and hold a military CCW. I walked in after Chattanooga with an official homeland security memo from the HQ NJ National Guard warning of potential home grown extremism against members of the military. I had a completed application, a letter of need, copies of my military weapon qual, copy of my military CCW, etc... walked in there in uniform and I was literally laughed at. I was told I'd never get approved. When I asked the trooper behind the counter why they get to carry off duty, he told me it was to defend themselves from gang members because they're police officers. I said, OK, when was the last time one of your guys here was attacked by a gang member around here. He couldn't answer me of course. I then asked him what the difference between that and the potential for extremism against military members was and he continued with his opinion that I didn't have specific threats against me and no justifiable need. When I asked my TAG about this, he had mentioned they were talking about it at the state level. Unfortunately, I don't think it's going anywhere. This state sucks. I'm still going on 8 months since I applied for a purchase permit with the SP and haven't gotten back yet. It was issued at 5 months, never got a call it was ready, picked it up 2 months after it was issued, went back to get it extended, they took it back to send to Trenton for an extension and it's been two months since with no calls. I saw we just flood the Supreme Court with CCW requests. The problem is getting past the Chiefs at the local PD's or SP barracks. They have to process the paperwork and a lot of them don't want to be bothered.

Went to my local NJSP barracks to apply for a CCW last summer. I am active NJ Air National Guard, qual'd on an M-9 and hold a military CCW. I walked in after Chattanooga with an official homeland security memo from the HQ NJ National Guard warning of potential home grown extremism against members of the military. I had a completed application, a letter of need, copies of my military weapon qual, copy of my military CCW, etc... walked in there in uniform and I was literally laughed at. I was told I'd never get approved. When I asked the trooper behind the counter why they get to carry off duty, he told me it was to defend themselves from gang members because they're police officers. I said, OK, when was the last time one of your guys here was attacked by a gang member around here. He couldn't answer me of course. I then asked him what the difference between that and the potential for extremism against military members was and he continued with his opinion that I didn't have specific threats against me and no justifiable need.