Jordan has decided to jump in and look for an AK type in .223. He's thinking about a Saiga. They're relatively inexpensive and seem to be available. Any opinions, pro or con, or alternatives, or local sources would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks.

 

Ken

Saiga's are great rifles, if that's what he's looking for. Plenty of online info in how to do the full AK conversion, as well.

 

Good luck!

I had a Romanian SAR 3 in .223. I sold it. If looking for a .223 he's better off with an AR. It will cost him more but it's a better choice if you want a .223 semi-auto rifle.

im extremely happy with my Saigas and im pretty sure they are something that will be very hard to get in the future.. i think they are a great purchase..

 

i have one in 7.62X39 and 223

 

my-saiga-rifles--t1048.html

 

good luck..

Thanks.

 

Anyone know if any of the NJ shops have them in stock? He's one of those "instant gratification" types.

 

K

Thanks.

 

Anyone know if any of the NJ shops have them in stock? He's one of those "instant gratification" types.

 

K

 

Tips Hardware in West Creek, NJ.

Butch's Gun World in vineland gets them here and there..

Thanks.

 

I called around locally, and the only bit of optimism was at Silver Bullet in Rockaway. They're possibly expecting a couple in next week, but have no more details than that. I may have to take a ride south this week.

 

Ken

Thanks.

 

I called around locally, and the only bit of optimism was at Silver Bullet in Rockaway. They're possibly expecting a couple in next week, but have no more details than that. I may have to take a ride south this week.

 

Ken

 

 

they ARE tough to find.. especially recently..

Davis in Goshen, NY had a few AR's in stock, also.

Thanks.

 

Anyone know if any of the NJ shops have them in stock? He's one of those "instant gratification" types.

 

K

 

Yeah, tell me about it!!! I'm the same way...I NEED IT NOWWWWW!! lol

 

Does he not like the 7.62x39 round? Just curious if his mind was made up on the .223

Does he not like the 7.62x39 round? Just curious if his mind was made up on the .223

I think he's pretty much talked himself into the .223. This will be his first rifle, and he's been doing some research on it. It seems that from what he's read, the .223 is a better shooter than the other Saiga choices, and I think he may be just a bit intimidated by the larger round. Just as well, since I'm thinking of a .223 bolt action for myself in the near future, and it seems to make sense to stick with a single caliber at this point, especially if we eventually get into reloading

 

K

Cool,....that makes alot of sense. I have a NJ Legal Romanian SAR-1 in 7.62x39 and love it! Nice little round, but you are right, he's better off sticking with the .223 for his first rifle. Especially if you are looking at a .223 rifle and want to reload.

if you want to reload with the saiga you will have to address the "ding" that the spent brass shells experience.. but its not a big deal..

 

having both the 223 and 7.62 i can tell you the following.. the 223 does appear to be slightly more accurate.. ammo is FAR more readily available... but the 7.62 seems to do more damage.. the recoil on both weapons is similar and i would not use it as a deciding factor between the two..

Meltzers in garfield have two of them in stock along with a bushmaster. Not sure of the caliber though

Thanks.

 

I called around locally, and the only bit of optimism was at Silver Bullet in Rockaway. They're possibly expecting a couple in next week, but have no more details than that. I may have to take a ride south this week.

 

Ken

 

 

Well, I just stopped by the Silver Bullet......

 

I went into look at the M&P15ORC he had........ it was sold already $1200. Began browsing around, and not knowking crap about anything, I asked about some black rifle that was mixed in with the .22's near the end.....

 

It was a Saiga 7.62 ..... $425.00...... Oh my...... oh my....

 

Please someone give me the cliff notes on Black Rifles .... .223 vs. 7.62 , and why shouldnt I spend 1/3 the price of an M&P and get a cool rifle....

 

Saiga's are cool with the regular AK Mag Conversion. 7.62 is cheap and fun to shoot. I would rather have 3 saiga's than 1 AR

7.62 saiga i know a TON about.. ive shown my saigas here.. its worth buying imo..

 

it is a TRUE russian made AK that is NJ legal.. and you can really make it nice..

 

the stock FCG sucks..

 

i can probably answer ANY questions you have..

 

7.62 is a more powerful round.. 7.62 VS 223 in russian type ammo is similar cost..