Anyone made their own AR lower or 1911, either from a 80% lower or frame or 3D printed?  Is this still doable or are they making it illegal?  

I don’t think either is legal in NJ. 

i think they're both illegal in nj.

Any AR lower that is made from anything without going through an FFL with a known manufacturer's serial number is considered a ghost gun in the PRNJ.  Illegal to make, Illegal to possess!

Any frame/receiver with no serial number is a no go in NJ. 

23 minutes ago, JohnnyB said:

Any AR lower that is made from anything without going through an FFL with a known manufacturer's serial number is considered a ghost gun in the PRNJ.  Illegal to make, Illegal to possess!

sounds awfully infringing, doesn't it?

 also, check your pm's

Well I guess I'll have to find another winter project.    

20 hours ago, 1LtCAP said:

sounds awfully infringing, doesn't it?

 also, check your pm's

Especially when Federal law says it is legal to make your own firearm as long as you dont sell it...

So the State can violate Federal law by making sanctuary cities for illegal aliens but we cant violate state law that says we cant own them.   Got it.

don't waste your time 3D printing, better off with a piece of wood & a sharp knife.

On 2/7/2022 at 6:26 PM, Tunaman said:

Especially when Federal law says it is legal to make your own firearm as long as you dont sell it...

So the State can violate Federal law by making sanctuary cities for illegal aliens but we cant violate state law that says we cant own them.   Got it.

isn't there some clause somewhere that states that a state cannot pre-empt a federal law with something more strict?

37 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said:

isn't there some clause somewhere that states that a state cannot pre-empt a federal law with something more strict?

Has that ever stopped the PRNJ before? 

13 hours ago, 1LtCAP said:

isn't there some clause somewhere that states that a state cannot pre-empt a federal law with something more strict?

Yes, its called supremacy clause in Article VI in the Constitution.  My guess is that you would have to take it up to a federal court, not a local or state court.  That's going to be a lot of time and money.  

What happens when a state law contradicts a U.S. federal law? | HowStuffWorks

 

Annotation 2 - Article VI - FindLaw

Also 14th Ammendment says: 

Section 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

14th Amendment | U.S. Constitution | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)

12 hours ago, 1LtCAP said:

isn't there some clause somewhere that states that a state cannot pre-empt a federal law with something more strict?

Incorporation of the Bill of Rights - Wikipedia

Marbury v Madison (1803) landmark case,   Judge Marshall concluded, “the Constitution of the United States confirms and strengthens the principle, supposed to be essential to all written constitutions, that a law repugnant to the constitution is void, and that courts, as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument.”

Marbury v. Madison - Definition, Summary & Significance - HISTORY

 

10 minutes ago, ESB said:

Marbury v Madison (1803) landmark case,   Judge Marshall concluded, “the Constitution of the United States confirms and strengthens the principle, supposed to be essential to all written constitutions, that a law repugnant to the constitution is void, and that courts, as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument.”

Marbury v. Madison - Definition, Summary & Significance - HISTORY

 

Seems this has been ignored in New Jersey for more than half a century now. 
  

 
 

 

 

It would probably need to be taken up by a federal court, not state or local.

On 2/9/2022 at 9:26 AM, ESB said:

Yes, its called supremacy clause in Article VI in the Constitution.  My guess is that you would have to take it up to a federal court, not a local or state court.  That's going to be a lot of time and money.  

What happens when a state law contradicts a U.S. federal law? | HowStuffWorks

 

Annotation 2 - Article VI - FindLaw

Also 14th Ammendment says: 

Section 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

14th Amendment | U.S. Constitution | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)

You aren't winning jack using privileges and immunities. 

SCOTUS basically said it means nothing as implying it means anything would mean relitigating ~50 years of case law.