Hello all,

Some opinions please.  I am a long time NJ resident and also a resident in SC.  I spend 8 months out of the year in NJ out of necessity.  When I leave NJ I carry everywhere as I have multiple CWP's.  I have purchased many pistols legally in NJ over the years.

I was thinking about getting some new permits to pee...(my term for the Pistol Permit) but with all the BS that had been going on I was thinking about refraining.

I also have completed all the NJ CWP permit applications, but I am not sure I am actually going to apply.  I don't need to put up with the NJ BS.  To me it's insulting.  Plus with all the restrictions coming and being tied up in the courts for probably years, it may be just a futile exercise.   I would rather just leave when my house is build in SC and buy it there.  Once I switch my license to SC, its cash and carry for me.

I have the old, non-expiring FID.  What I do not want to happen is if I go apply for new permits to pee, that my FID gets converted to an expiring one and then I have to pay a renewal fee.   

I did read the new regs and it looks like they are grandfathering old FID folks to the non expiring one but this is NJ...what is written in law is usually ignored by the class warfare system we have here and the horrible mentality and attitude of some of these LEO's and NJSP officers that think their personal bias is important and the sneers you get when you go pay the $2.

Am I being paranoid?

Edited October 15, 20224 yr by dman2112
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IANAL, but I have not heard anything about the act of applying for more "pee"s(lol) triggering your existing FID needing to become one of the new expiring ones. So I would proceed and apply for your additional pees. Then again, if your SC house is going to be finished within a reasonable timeframe, why not just wait until you officially move out of this god forsaken state and not have to deal with any of this bullshit.

Yeah maybe you are right. I’m about 18 months out for the house to be finished. But I wanted to do a 1911 build over the winter but it just might be prudent to wait. 

I became a NJ resident in 2017.  Knowing that, I made purchases in Pennsylvania before that.  I have the ID card,  but nothing more.  I plan to move back to Pennsylvania in a year or so and I will probably celebrate with a purchase at that time.

On 10/15/2022 at 12:10 PM, dman2112 said:

Hello all,

Some opinions please.  I am a long time NJ resident and also a resident in SC.  I spend 8 months out of the year in NJ out of necessity.  When I leave NJ I carry everywhere as I have multiple CWP's.  I have purchased many pistols legally in NJ over the years.

I was thinking about getting some new permits to pee...(my term for the Pistol Permit) but with all the BS that had been going on I was thinking about refraining.

I also have completed all the NJ CWP permit applications, but I am not sure I am actually going to apply.  I don't need to put up with the NJ BS.  To me it's insulting.  Plus with all the restrictions coming and being tied up in the courts for probably years, it may be just a futile exercise.   I would rather just leave when my house is build in SC and buy it there.  Once I switch my license to SC, its cash and carry for me.

I have the old, non-expiring FID.  What I do not want to happen is if I go apply for new permits to pee, that my FID gets converted to an expiring one and then I have to pay a renewal fee.   

I did read the new regs and it looks like they are grandfathering old FID folks to the non expiring one but this is NJ...what is written in law is usually ignored by the class warfare system we have here and the horrible mentality and attitude of some of these LEO's and NJSP officers that think their personal bias is important and the sneers you get when you go pay the $2.

Am I being paranoid?

Yes you are being paranoid.  If you have an old school FID its good forever, you don't get converted to the new one even when you submit for additional P2P's.

3 minutes ago, NorthernYankee said:

Yes you are being paranoid.  If you have an old school FID its good forever, you don't get converted to the new one even when you submit for additional P2P's.

You seem confident...Can you cite a recent example?  I have an example of someone applied for P2P and when they got approved his FID was also updated as an E-FID.  He downloaded it and it had a 10 year expire

4 minutes ago, dman2112 said:

You seem confident...Can you cite a recent example?  I have an example of someone applied for P2P and when they got approved his FID was also updated as an E-FID.  He downloaded it and it had a 10 year expire

Yes, myself when I got 3 permits in July.  Do what you feel comfortable with.

2 hours ago, dman2112 said:

You seem confident...Can you cite a recent example?  I have an example of someone applied for P2P and when they got approved his FID was also updated as an E-FID.  He downloaded it and it had a 10 year expire

I just got 3 permits myself. I asked the FFL which one he wanted and they took the yellow card. You're overthinking this and making it more work than it needs to be. Keep using the yellow one.  my E-FID has no exp date on it either. 

Yup, overthinkin it. The prices on stuff are just gona keep going up, even guns. Buy stuff now. 

Buy it from the Elmer gun company llc in upper Deerfield, cheapest prices in the state. 856-364-1031 

11 hours ago, dman2112 said:

You seem confident...Can you cite a recent example?  I have an example of someone applied for P2P and when they got approved his FID was also updated as an E-FID.  He downloaded it and it had a 10 year expire

I believe the 10 year limit on the ID card with firearms training now needed for renewal was changed/started this year.  Apparently they initially wanted to make it. 4 year ID card but didn't have the votes for that.

Your FPID is not a P2P. 

Applying for a P2P is seperate. 

I applied for P2Ps over the summer, I recieved my new "e-FID" as well with no expiration date. 

 

Hi. I appreciate the response but I’m not sure you Understood my concern. Your experience validated my concern. I understand the difference between the two very well. 

1 hour ago, dman2112 said:

Hi. I appreciate the response but I’m not sure you Understood my concern. Your experience validated my concern. I understand the difference between the two very well. 

Not sure what your concern is, they just digitized my FPID for their FARS system. Not a bad thing because I don't need to carry it anymore if I want to stop in a store, it's also moot now if I lose it since I won't have to apply for a duplicate. 

No expiration and renewal fee?

5 hours ago, dman2112 said:

No expiration and renewal fee?

Didn't pay anything, no expiration. 

I never check mine since I printed it the first time I got the e FID and took a picture of it, but just did now. I applied for 3 p2p the second week of august and was approved the end of September, My e FID has no experation and no renewal fee attached. 

I also got an E-FID automagically when I applied for permits. No expiration. 

OK thanks to all.  Appreciate it.

 

I just applied for 4 permits (pee) with my never expiring FID and only issue I had was it took 37 days to get em. Week was tops before.