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Good guy 1, Bad guy 0, CCW in action

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Anyone else see this one? I searched, didn't see it here.

 

 

Glock 23, .40 cal

 

Good shoot...little iffy with the kid at the one point but the guy was on target and stopped firing once the bad guy was down.

The mother moved late, but she did move out of the way of fire. From that angle its hard to know exactly what the clerk's field of view is. Alot of those security cameras are slightly fisheyed to give a wider view, so the scale isn't always exact.

Good stuff. Some commenters were complaining of the baby's proximity, but that is why you train if you carry concealed.

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I didn't notice if he racked the slide. I don't think he did. Not sure I'd carry one in the pipe even if I could ever CCW here in NJ. I have practiced and I can rack the slide and have my HK(pictured left) on target in just under a second.

how could they see if it was a glock 40?

 

I can see carrying with the cz with one in the pipe with the safety on, but hey.... it is what it is.

 

i hope the baby wasnt hurt.

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how could they see if it was a glock 40?

 

It's listed in the info for the movie. Whoever posted the movie must know the guy otherwise how did they get access to the video?

 

Someone did say the good guy posts on other gun sites so he probably identified what he used. And just for the sake of clarity, it was a Glock 23, .40 caliber. Does Glock make a g40? I don't think so but I'm not a glock fan.

I carry my Beretta mini-Cougar with one in the tube and the safety off. I didn't walk around Baghdad with my safety on my firearms, why would I do it here?

 

A firearm only goes off when you pull the trigger, not carrying one in the tube because you are afraid it might go off is like unplugging you vacuum because you are worried it is going to turn on and suck up your cat IMO

Way to close to the female & baby imo. I dont think any LEO would have taken that shot. Was anyones life in immediate danger? Seems a little vigalante(ish) to me. The music lyrics and homey holding a gun ghettoized the vid a little. Has nothing to do with the shooter / incident, just makes CCW holders look like thugs.

Way to close to the female & baby imo. I dont think any LEO would have taken that shot. Was anyones life in immediate danger? Seems a little vigalante(ish) to me. The music lyrics and homey holding a gun ghettoized the vid a little. Has nothing to do with the shooter / incident, just makes CCW holders look like thugs.

 

I can't judge on the closeness of the lady and the baby from one angle from one video. I would just say they didn't get shot, so they were not to close. To close is in the line of the bullets path if you ask me. As for knowing if anyone was in immediate danger I would say yes. As a CCW holder I would only pull my gun out if I intended to use it, why should I err on the side of caution and assume otherwise for everyone else. I do not know this man perhaps he ran in not to just rob the place but to fulfill a few gang initiation killings as well. When you pull out a gun you become an "immediate danger" to all that you point it at.

 

I worry about getting shot by a LEO or another CCW that does not know the situation if I ever have to pull out my gun to shoot a bad guy, why should the bad guy not have to worry every time he pulls out a gun that he will meet the same fate?

 

I do agree 100% with the poor choice in music and the picture at the end was just in bad taste as well.

Not sure I'd carry one in the pipe even if I could

 

Then you shouldn't be carrying a handgun. By the time you cycle the slide in a Glock 23, you would be dead if the need to defend yourself were to arise.

 

What would you do if the round failed to chamber properly? Those seconds it take as the handgun especially can be difficult to cycle, means life or dead. If a ND is your concern, selection of the handgun type is paramount. After thirty plus years and 23 with a semi-auto, having a round chambered is not an issue for a competent handgun user. Competent being the key word.

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Not sure I'd carry one in the pipe even if I could

 

Then you shouldn't be carrying a handgun. By the time you cycle the slide in a Glock 23, you would be dead if the need to defend yourself were to arise.

 

What would you do if the round failed to chamber properly? Those seconds it take as the handgun especially can be difficult to cycle, means life or dead. If a ND is your concern, selection of the handgun type is paramount. After thirty plus years and 23 with a semi-auto, having a round chambered is not an issue for a competent handgun user. Competent being the key word.

 

It's why I don't own a Glock. A cocked and locked 1911 or my HK P30 decocked wouldn't bother me a bit. Thanks for suggesting I'm incompetent all the same. I guess I need another 35 years of fire arms practice before I get it right.

Not sure I'd carry one in the pipe even if I could

 

Then you shouldn't be carrying a handgun. By the time you cycle the slide in a Glock 23, you would be dead if the need to defend yourself were to arise.

 

What would you do if the round failed to chamber properly? Those seconds it take as the handgun especially can be difficult to cycle, means life or dead. If a ND is your concern, selection of the handgun type is paramount. After thirty plus years and 23 with a semi-auto, having a round chambered is not an issue for a competent handgun user. Competent being the key word.

 

It's why I don't own a Glock. A cocked and locked 1911 or my HK P30 decocked wouldn't bother me a bit. Thanks for suggesting I'm incompetent all the same. I guess I need another 35 years of fire arms practice before I get it right.

 

 

It's a shame you took that as anything other than the constructive criticism it was meant too be.

rscalzo is 100% correct. If you have to jack a round. You're not prepared, plain and simple. And Glock has nothing to do with it. That goes for any semi.

It's a shame you took that as anything other than the constructive criticism it was meant too be.

rscalzo is 100% correct. If you have to jack a round. You're not prepared, plain and simple. And Glock has nothing to do with it. That goes for any semi.

 

Agreed. Reading the written word on the net can sometimes lead to misunderstandings. I did not take this as anything other than constructive criticism.

 

I am not sure about your statement regarding Glocks, can you explain your rationale regarding them vs. the pistols you would carry?

 

In regards to needing another 35 years of practice I will simply add that I know a lot of guys who have been shooting 20 plus years who have NEVER carried their handgun concealed. Just because you go to the range and shoot does not mean you know what it is like to EDC your pistol or utilize it during a life threatening critical incident. I mean no disrespect with this statement, just passing on what I have experienced directly.

Its funny to see where these conversations go sometimes. :D

 

I was always taught to go condition 1 carrying a pistol, tactical or concealed. Safety mechanisms were subject to preference and comfort level. The Glocks really have no safety, though you can get one of those trigger guard plugs. It sits between the trigger and the edge of the guard, so when you draw, all you have to do is pop it out with your index finger when ready to fire. Gives you peace of mind if you're that concerned about a negligent discharge when holstered.

 

P.S. I was talking strictly pistols in a hoslter. When carrying a rifle, I always had the safety on, condition 2.

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Its funny to see where these conversations go sometimes. :D

 

I was always taught to go condition 1 carrying a pistol, tactical or concealed. Safety mechanisms were subject to preference and comfort level..

 

A 5.5lb trigger on a glock isn't my idea of a safety. I hunted a lot growing up and walking through the woods with a cartridge in the chamber without a safety is extremely irresponsible with a pistol or a rifle. If someone chooses to carry a Glock, more power to them. They go bang when you pull the trigger reliably. A cocked and locked 1911 is in condition one. A DA trigger on a decocked firearm with round chambered is condition one. I simply don't believe that a SA trigger on a Glock is enough of a safety(and DAO is BS, they're not Double Action). If that makes me unready and incompetent, I guess I have to live with it.

Nobody's suggesting incompetence. There is no right or wrong as long as you are safe, practicing safety, and feel comfortable. It all really boils down to opinion and preference. People will have different preferences. There is nothing wrong with that.

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