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Speer G2 Carbine bullets

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According to the Speer website,  these bullets have:

"Gold Dot Carry Gun

Compact pistols have never offered this level of protection. We've built upon the law-enforcement proven Gold Dot G2 bullet, optimizing the design and loading to provide superior feeding, ballistics and terminal performance through compact concealed handguns. Gold Dot Carry Gun features the original’s exclusive bullet nose design. Instead of a large hollow-point cavity, it has a shallow dish filled with a high-performance elastomer. On impact, the material is forced into engineered internal fissures to start the expansion process. The result is extremely uniform expansion, better separation of the petals, and more consistent penetration across barrier types."

So my question would be if these are in the same category as the Hornady Critical duty/defense as non hollow point.  It would be great if we could carry these.  I tried to pose the question to the firearms unit but I cannot for the life of me find any way to contact them for a general question.  Feel free to let me know what you think.

29 minutes ago, Tunaman said:

According to the Speer website,  these bullets have:

"Gold Dot Carry Gun

Compact pistols have never offered this level of protection. We've built upon the law-enforcement proven Gold Dot G2 bullet, optimizing the design and loading to provide superior feeding, ballistics and terminal performance through compact concealed handguns. Gold Dot Carry Gun features the original’s exclusive bullet nose design. Instead of a large hollow-point cavity, it has a shallow dish filled with a high-performance elastomer. On impact, the material is forced into engineered internal fissures to start the expansion process. The result is extremely uniform expansion, better separation of the petals, and more consistent penetration across barrier types."

So my question would be if these are in the same category as the Hornady Critical duty/defense as non hollow point.  It would be great if we could carry these.  I tried to pose the question to the firearms unit but I cannot for the life of me find any way to contact them for a general question.  Feel free to let me know what you think.

Although the hole in the nose is not as deep a traditional hollow point. There is still a hole where Critical Duty and Defense are completely polymer filled. I would say no go in the PRNJ for Gold Dot Carry Gun!

Some pics it looks nearly filled, others the cavity still looks noticeable. 
 

Id bet you’d beat the HP charge if it went to court but nobody wants to be that test case. 

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15 hours ago, JohnnyB said:

Although the hole in the nose is not as deep a traditional hollow point. There is still a hole where Critical Duty and Defense are completely polymer filled. I would say no go in the PRNJ for Gold Dot Carry Gun!

Hmm, I can't tell in the pic if there is any exposed cavity or not.  Is the top totally flat?  Or is the outer portion taller than the inner portion (even if minimal)?  The green pic makes it look like it is not flat and that there is a small cavity.  The bottom pic makes it look like it is flat. 

 

Hmm.  Just saw this pic.  Looks like the polymer is clear, but makes the top flat.  This should be it NJ legal I think since there is no exposed cavity.  

 

Firearms Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ's) | New Jersey State Police (nj.gov)

13. I’m not a police officer, are hollow points legal for me to possess?

Yes.  They are legal for purchase and possess in your home or on land owned by you.  They are legal to possess and use at a gun range.  They are also legal to possess while traveling to and from such places. Ammunition lacking a hollow cavity at the tip, such as those with a polymer filling, are not considered to be hollow point ammunition.  An example of this can be seen with the Hornady Critical Defense / Critical Duty, Cor-Bon PowRball / Glaser Safety Slug and Nosler Inc. Defense ammunition.

 

Speer Gold Dot G2 147 grain PT 9mm

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I'll ask the NJSP but I cant find a way to contact them.  The link for the Firearms unit is dead.

8 hours ago, ESB said:

Hmm.  Just saw this pic.  Looks like the polymer is clear, but makes the top flat.  This should be it NJ legal I think since there is no exposed cavity

Thats a G2 box it’s sitting on though, would suggest it’s not Carry Gun

12 hours ago, Shocker said:

Thats a G2 box it’s sitting on though, would suggest it’s not Carry Gun

Didn't realize there was a difference between G2 and G2 Carry Gun.  Hollow points are legal to own in NJ, just can't carry them unless going to/from range.  If inclined, buy a box to see if they have any exposed cavity.  If they do, go to the range it use it, then try something different.  Totally legal.  

The packaging is confusing because there is “G2 Carry Gun” as well as G2 (with no suffix). Both bullets appear to be the same though, so maybe it’s a Critical Duty/Critical Defense type thing 

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Looks like the US Special forces are going to be using the Speer G2 now.  Contract is for 8.5 million rounds!  They must be good.

2 hours ago, Krdshrk said:

Or Lowest Bidder :D

Actually - it’s awarded to the best value product as that ammo first had to meet their particular needs as specified in the IDIQ bid request.

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