So what ammo are we carrying or allowed to carry?  Hollow point, ball, expanding tip, Critical Defense? This would be for 9mm and .380.

No hollow points! 

Critical duty. 

i'vre been carrying critical defense in my g19. i had to go with magpul mags to avoid a failure to feed on the last round

3 hours ago, JackDaWack said:

No hollow points! 

Critical duty. 

Or Critical Defense. Depends on the situation you expect to be in should you need to shoot:

https://www.police1.com/police-products/firearms/accessories/ammunition/articles/critical-defense-vs-critical-duty-clearing-up-confusion-over-hornady-ammunition-4V6a5PiYFS1DkyFN/

I really like the way Critical Defense performs in .380, so that was my first choice, so that's a plus. I'm going to have to look at Critical Duty and Critical Defense in 9mm to see which one looks to have better performance in a short barrel.

1 hour ago, diamondd817 said:

I'm going to have to look at Critical Duty and Critical Defense in 9mm to see which one looks to have better performance in a short barrel.

I believe Hornady has already done that performance test for you!  Defense was designed to perform better in a short barrel and Duty for the longer one found in full size pistols.

Look at the expansion with the Defense, Duty sucks in that test!

https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/#9mm

40 minutes ago, JohnnyB said:

I believe Hornady has already done that performance test for you!  Defense was designed to perform better in a short barrel and Duty for the longer one found in full size pistols.

Look at the expansion with the Defense, Duty sucks in that test!

https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/#9mm

I think I knew this answer already, but I needed to confirm. Now it's confirmed,  Defense it is.

Edit: IDK, that Critical Duty 135+p looks pretty good.

24 minutes ago, diamondd817 said:

Edit: IDK, that Critical Duty 135+p looks pretty good.

That's what I carry. It is also listed as FBI duty ammo.

2 hours ago, Mr.Stu said:

That's what I carry. It is also listed as FBI duty ammo.

Same. I'm also not as concerned with ballistics as much as cycling reliability.

On 12/23/2023 at 3:50 PM, JackDaWack said:

Same. I'm also not as concerned with ballistics as much as cycling reliability.

yup.....watch the rubber tip.

Big fan of Lehigh Defense Xtreme Defense in .380.  Underwood Ammunition offers these in a few different weights/velocities.  Excellent penetration characteristics for the wee-caliber.  Cycles without issue in both my .380s. 
Just another alternative worth considering. 

Critical Defense 9mm, in my Glock 43x

Critical Duty 357sig, in my Sig P229.  

 

14 hours ago, kirk2022 said:

Critical Defense 9mm, in my Glock 43x

Critical Duty 357sig, in my Sig P229.  

 

I decided on:

.380 Critical Defense for my G42

9mm Critical Duty 135+p for my P365

In the infamous words of Mr. Jim Cirillo...." it always galls me when I hear someone say " Oh that weapon is much too heavy to carry"....To this I say, When you get in a gunfight, you will wish you had the biggest, heaviest, largest bore handgun you could get your hands on".