I have a question on blocking magazines for the state of NJ. I would like to have a 15rd mag for my mini 14 but they seem to not be available. I was wondering if it was legal to have a 20rd mag blocked to 15? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

As long as its permanently blocked.

What would the definition of permanently blocked be translated to.

Not being able to remove the block you put in there. Welded, riveted bottom plate I would think would be considered permanent....not sure tho.

So I would assume it would be legal to have a blocked 20rd in this manner? I would need to know definitively. Anyone with insight into this please help.

So I would assume it would be legal to have a blocked 20rd in this manner? I would need to know definitively. Anyone with insight into this please help.

 

If want to know definitley, call the NJSP firearms unit, don't trust anything on the internet.

The NJSP will not give legal advice. The NJSP get their legal advice from the NJAG office. But, don't be surprise of the answer you'll get.

 

The NJSP has said that rivets, welds, pins, etc. are considered "Permanently Altered". I think that if you have to use a tool to undo the permanency, it is legal. Besides, nothing is really permanent.

Thanks guys, I went on the website and found this

 

"Large capacity ammunition magazine" means a box, drum, tube or other container, which is

capable of holding more than 15 rounds of ammunition to be fed continuously and directly

therefrom into a semi-automatic firearm. A large capacity ammunition magazine that has been

permanently altered so that it is not capable of holding more than 15 rounds of ammunition will

cease to be defined as a "large capacity ammunition magazine." An ammunition magazine, which

has been temporarily blocked or modified from holding more than 15 rounds, as by a piece of wood

or a pin, is still considered to be a "large capacity ammunition magazine."

 

What is confusing is the last part about wood or a "PIN".

Would that include a rivet. I hate how these can be translated in various ways without a definitive meaning.

Yep, tell me about it...that is the aggrivating part. Welcome to NJ! :roll:

Guess I'll stick with the 10 rounder. This topic is up for interpretation and there are too many doubts to how it can be interpreted. Hopefully someone will make a 15rd mag for my rifle. I believe "permanently altered" would be a mag cut down so it would no longer be able to hold more than 15rds. A blocked mag would still have the capability and capacity to hold more than 15rds so it might be considered "temporary". Read the quote carefully and you'll see what I mean, especially when it says "no longer capable" in the quote.

When I bought my Springfield M1A from Meltzer, it came with 3 mag of 20 round they had a piece of wood blocking to load 15 rounds, at the time it was legal. Now I don't have to worry