Hello, I just applied for my FIC/Handgun permit card on June 1st. Its been close to three months and I check in with the city police records clerk every week. She keeps telling me all I need it the police chiefs signature and I will get the card. This has been going of for 2 weeks. I already reserved a handgun for purchase and need the card to pick it up. Has anyone else experienced the same BS?

 

Also, my buddy in NY said he has to register his firearms at the local police station. Do we have to register firearms at the police station?

Hopfully you applied for a purchase permit at the same time as your FID Card...... otherwise your gonna have to wait longer to pick up that pistol..... :? :?

Hello, I just applied for my FIC/Handgun permit card on June 1st. Its been close to three months and I check in with the city police records clerk every week. She keeps telling me all I need it the police chiefs signature and I will get the card. This has been going of for 2 weeks. I already reserved a handgun for purchase and need the card to pick it up. Has anyone else experienced the same BS?

 

Also, my buddy in NY said he has to register his firearms at the local police station. Do we have to register firearms at the police station?

 

Registration in NJ for firearms is optional and you should never do this.

 

I hope you applied for pistol permits as well as your firearms purchaser ID card?

Yes it was a pistol purchase permit also, I am pretty sure it is on the same form(Application for Firearms Purchaser Identification Card and/or Handgun Purchase Permit).

 

What is an estimate wait time for pistol permit filed separately?

 

 

malsua, that is good to know. I don't plan on registering anything in that case.

Unfortunately, the wait time varies from town to town. There's a poll on here somewhere about the average wait time and it was either 2 months or 3 months.. i forget which.

 

Found it: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=503

Thanks Caine, I guess it could be worse, my father had his digital prints rejected by the state and had to redo them with ink which set him back a month at least.

 

I am pretty excited about getting out on the range though. I have been just watching some of the safety/educational videos on Youtube to get down the basic rules on safety of gun ownership.

What town are you in? I'm in Woodbridge and currently on my 7th week with no FPID in sight because they're dicking me around.

What town are you in? I'm in Woodbridge and currently on my 7th week with no FPID in sight because they're dicking me around.

Ventnor City, they are really dragging their feet. Last time I checked in to see if it was ready the lady was reading a romance novel and couldn't be bothered. Its going on 12 weeks. You got your prints and everything in right?

What town are you in? I'm in Woodbridge and currently on my 7th week with no FPID in sight because they're dicking me around.

Ventnor City, they are really dragging their feet. Last time I checked in to see if it was ready the lady was reading a romance novel and couldn't be bothered. Its going on 12 weeks. You got your prints and everything in right?

 

Yup. They tried accusing me of falsifying my references because either they want to discourage me from getting my FPID or some dumb @$$ in the mailing room doesn't know what they are doing. Then they give me a bogus story about the FBI putting a 3 month hold on all non-top priority background checks which I verified with the state PD's Firearms Investigation Unit wasn't true.

 

Honestly ask them in person when the paperwork was submitted to the chief. Unfortunately the way the law was interpenetrated via a court case, its 30 days from the moment the paperwork is submitted to the chief. If its been longer then 30 days quote the law and see if something happens.

Case Law

Case Law

 

Sifting through the legal jargon, it seems like they have to approve or deny the FIC card in 30 days. I know there are police officers who are members of this thread and no disrespect to them, it seems as though some police departments try to intimidate and make it very time consuming for citizens to complete the whole FIC process. In my opinion this is all just to discourage citizens from applying for firearms permits, and there is nothing we can really do about it except wait. Its not worth the time or $$ to hire a lawyer and make enemies with the people who are in control of the city.

Quite frankly the stated 30 day time frame is unrealistic. The return of the prints is usually in the three to four week range. The paperwork for the references being sent out and return is anyone's guess. Add to that the fact that processing permits is far from a priority in most departments. the world doesn't stop to allow processing permits. not to mention that firearm permits are not the only ones handled by many departments. In the case of a small department, of which many are, the three or four employees tasked with administrative and investigative duties have a large case load. Thinking that the case load of criminal incidents is going to be put on the back burner so the processing of permits can be accomplished isn't going to happen.

 

In today's economic climate, the workforce has been reduced significantly adding to everyone's workload. What do you think the chance of a town hiring additional people? slim to none. My department is down twenty percent and that number is not going up anytime soon. I'm frankly surprised that the fees haven't been raised significantly as an easy source of revenue.

Quite frankly the stated 30 day time frame is unrealistic. The return of the prints is usually in the three to four week range.

 

That's funny. Criminals seem to be processed in hours...

That's funny. Criminals seem to be processed in hours...

 

No references needed. Actual processing time is about 20 minutes.

Case Law

 

Sifting through the legal jargon, it seems like they have to approve or deny the FIC card in 30 days. I know there are police officers who are members of this thread and no disrespect to them, it seems as though some police departments try to intimidate and make it very time consuming for citizens to complete the whole FIC process. In my opinion this is all just to discourage citizens from applying for firearms permits, and there is nothing we can really do about it except wait. Its not worth the time or $$ to hire a lawyer and make enemies with the people who are in control of the city.

 

Yup, but if you look closely the judge's ruling argues that the 30 day time period starts the moment the paperwork is received from the State PD & FBI, not when you drop off your application. This is what gives local PD's carte blanche to delay giving your FPID for however long they want.

Case Law

 

Sifting through the legal jargon, it seems like they have to approve or deny the FIC card in 30 days. I know there are police officers who are members of this thread and no disrespect to them, it seems as though some police departments try to intimidate and make it very time consuming for citizens to complete the whole FIC process. In my opinion this is all just to discourage citizens from applying for firearms permits, and there is nothing we can really do about it except wait. Its not worth the time or $$ to hire a lawyer and make enemies with the people who are in control of the city.

 

Yup, but if you look closely the judge's ruling argues that the 30 day time period starts the moment the paperwork is received from the State PD & FBI, not when you drop off your application. This is what gives local PD's carte blanche to delay giving your FPID for however long they want.

 

Got the call yesterday and I'm all set. 3 months to the day almost.

 

Got the call yesterday and I'm all set. 3 months to the day almost.

 

Congrats on that.

 

Unrelated, I've seen in different posts, in different places, that some people are waiting, simply, on the chief's signature. Any idea what the delay is there? Is it simply a matter of them not making it a high priority? If it's simply a signature, which I presume is not the case, it'd be hard to justify not having the time, no?

 

Got the call yesterday and I'm all set. 3 months to the day almost.

 

Congrats on that.

 

Unrelated, I've seen in different posts, in different places, that some people are waiting, simply, on the chief's signature. Any idea what the delay is there? Is it simply a matter of them not making it a high priority? If it's simply a signature, which I presume is not the case, it'd be hard to justify not having the time, no?

 

The police chief has to review the application. He's the one who decides whether you can have a FPID or not.

The police chief has to review the application. He's the one who decides whether you can have a FPID or not.

Why? Doesn't he trust the detectives that he hired to do the job? I am sure he doesn't even look at them. He'll sign them when he gets a pile and when he feels like it. :roll:

I am sure he doesn't even look at them

Pretty much. They get signed as they get passed in. I've never seen anyone wait until a pile develops.

I'm still waiting,8 1\2 months.. this is nuts.. waiting on the chief. I'll even bring him the pen.. :evil:

Past MOnday was 7 weeks waiting for me.

Spoke to Det yesterday who appologized for the delay. Said heis giving paperwork to clerk to type uop and I should be able to pick up end of this week.

 

So call it 8 weeks.

 

Not terrible.

 

I do not believe I was being jerked around as he said it would take about 6 weeks.

 

Sgt. even cleared his service gun off his hip and handed it to me saying if you haven't chosen a handgun yet, check this one out.

Sgt. even cleared his service gun off his hip and handed it to me saying if you haven't chosen a handgun yet, check this one out.

WOW :shock: I have to go through the NJSP in Sussex County, the trooper handling the paperwork always secures his handgun in a locker before allowing access to the office and proceeding with the paperwork.

I'm on my 9th week and still nothing for me. :/

Yes, he was very cool and I know the delay is not because of anti gin nonsense.

 

I only wish I didn't let the bitch clerk talk me out of my 2nd handgun permit.

Yes, he was very cool and I know the delay is not because of anti gin nonsense.

 

I only wish I didn't let the **** clerk talk me out of my 2nd handgun permit.

 

Ah noob, now you know better. 3+ permits every time "just in case"!

 

I made the same mistake when I went for my initial card/permit application.

3+ is a good rule of thumb. I made the mistake of getting 3, and probably should have gotten 5. So start with what you know you want and then add 2-3 more permits for all the other stuff you'll see on here and will also want

3+ is a good rule of thumb. I made the mistake of getting 3, and probably should have gotten 5. So start with what you know you want and then add 2-3 more permits for all the other stuff you'll see on here and will also want

 

Don't you love when someone asks, with that "IM SUCH A BETTER PERSON THAN YOU!" face, Why would anyone want that many pistols?!?!? :evil:

Stupidly, that's one of the reasons I only got 3 originally. I figured since I had only been in NJ a few months that they might give me a hard time and delay my application if I asked for too many permits. Wish I knew then what I know now...

Yup.

Kickin myself in the ass.

 

Well, at least I got them today.

When I go for the address change in a couple of weeks, I will put in for 4 permits.