I was listening to a liberal radio station, cause I listen to both sides. One of the callers said he thinks they will use this H1N1 thing to initiate martial law. I just thought of that call while listening to fox this morning about this H1N1 nonsense.

 

Can anyone say I am Legend,

 

Has anyone got the vaccine yet?

If so do you feel any different?

I think there a couple of things at work here, and neither of them are good.

 

First of all, it's about fear. Make you afraid of something you have no control over and when you become afraid enough to allow the suspension of certain rights, the government comes in and "helps" with the problem. I keep hearing the news reports about how many people have died from H1N1. It's almost becoming a running count from day to day. No mention of how many people have died from the regular flu, or car accidents, or heart attacks, or anything else for that matter. Just be afraid of this, because we have plan to stem the tide of the "pandemic".

 

Now, when you're afraid enough, the shiitake hits the fan. Mandatory vaccinations. Suspension of right to assemble. Media takeover for the purpose of disseminating "public service" messages. Global mandates that supersede our national sovereignty. Seizure of firearms to preserve the peace. (BTW, on an unrelated topic, our loving government is in the process of moving gun violence away from being a law enforcement issue into becoming a public health issue. Nice, huh?)

 

Secondly, it's about control. Make the public afraid of their neighbor. No touching. No handshaking. No close contact. Isolate the individual and take him out of a community mindset, and he's easier to control. take away the support of a group, and controlling the individual becomes simpler.

 

It may be a tinfoil hat issue, but combined with everything else that's happening to destroy this country (Climate Control Treaty, 'net neutrality legislation, healthcare takeover, taking ownership of newspapers, etc., etc.), it's more likely than not to be the actual plan.

 

I hope I'm wrong, but I fear for the future. There was a time when this would be considered conspiracy theory nutjob rambling, but when these kinds of suggestions come from Washington, what else is there to think?

The Hype is bullshit anyway.

 

My Stepson was diagnosed with Swine flue end of this summer (yep, CDC involvement, the whole 9 yards).

 

Now don't get me wrong, he was sick. fever appeared on a Sunday night and he was in bed feeling like Sh!te most of the week, but with no fever by Thursday, he was back to school on Friday.

 

He is 12 and wasn't even sick a whole week.

 

I was FAR sicker when I was a kid and had intestinal flu or earlier this year when I had Pneumonia.

I think there a couple of things at work here, and neither of them are good.

 

First of all, it's about fear. Make you afraid of something you have no control over and when you become afraid enough to allow the suspension of certain rights, the government comes in and "helps" with the problem. I keep hearing the news reports about how many people have died from H1N1. It's almost becoming a running count from day to day. No mention of how many people have died from the regular flu, or car accidents, or heart attacks, or anything else for that matter. Just be afraid of this, because we have plan to stem the tide of the "pandemic".

 

Now, when you're afraid enough, the shiitake hits the fan. Mandatory vaccinations. Suspension of right to assemble. Media takeover for the purpose of disseminating "public service" messages. Global mandates that supersede our national sovereignty. Seizure of firearms to preserve the peace. (BTW, on an unrelated topic, our loving government is in the process of moving gun violence away from being a law enforcement issue into becoming a public health issue. Nice, huh?)

 

Secondly, it's about control. Make the public afraid of their neighbor. No touching. No handshaking. No close contact. Isolate the individual and take him out of a community mindset, and he's easier to control. take away the support of a group, and controlling the individual becomes simpler.

 

It may be a tinfoil hat issue, but combined with everything else that's happening to destroy this country (Climate Control Treaty, 'net neutrality legislation, healthcare takeover, taking ownership of newspapers, etc., etc.), it's more likely than not to be the actual plan.

 

I hope I'm wrong, but I fear for the future. There was a time when this would be considered conspiracy theory nutjob rambling, but when these kinds of suggestions come from Washington, what else is there to think?

 

Ken,

 

Were you sitting at my kitchen table this past Sunday evening? I believe that I quoted you almost verbatim on just about every point. Kind of makes one wonder about the timimg and tone of the news coverage of this "pandemic" as it relates to government health care reform. Seems as convenient a crisis as global warming/climate change.

 

I never thought of myself as a "conspracy theorist" but I seem to be leaning toward ever increasing distrust of the government every day. I haven't gotten to the bunker-building phase yet but, as you said,what else is there to think.

I don't believe it is any type of Conspiracy.

 

The whole Swine flu thing started way before Obama I believe and this is just typical fear mostly prompted and promoted by 24hr news media.

 

If we didn't have it shoved in our face for 3 minutes every hour 24 hours a day, it would be no big deal.

Didn't WHO classify Swine Flu as a pandemic, and the CDC has not? Either way, pandemics have nothing to do with the lethality of the disease, but how quickly and easily the population can contract the disease.

But you guys are right, it is a form of control. I think the disease is definitely a threat, but I don't see how it is any worse then everything else that has been out there. Maybe in this case it isn't a direct form, but politicians may use it as a feint or misdirection to keep our minds occupied while they rape our other liberties.

Never let a crisis go to waste. -Rahm Emanuel

 

:hope:

Never let a crisis go to waste. -Rahm Emanuel

 

:hope:

And if you don't have an actual crisis, but you have an agenda, create a crisis in the minds of the public and move forward.

Rahm and 0, managing every crisis to their political benefit.

 

H1N1 is not Captain Tripps but mated with the prior statement it becomes a club to bludgeon us into submission.

My GF is a nurse and general consensus in the medical field is that the normal everyday flu is worse than the H1N1. More people die from the flu than tis.

My GF is a nurse and general consensus in the medical field is that the normal everyday flu is worse than the H1N1. More people die from the flu than tis.

But this has a name... SWINE FLU. Something we can target as the cause of our fear. Like ASSAULT WEAPON or GLOBAL WARMING. It's not some conceptual entity like "the flu". We've all had "the flu" and mostly lived through it, but this is the SWINE FLU, and since we felt it was important enough to give it name that separates it from the regular, run of the mill seasonal flu, it must be so much more dangerous and deadly, and presents an opportunity not to be missed or minimized.

please don't fret. Our King Obama will squash that pest shortly, right after he get Fox News off the air. First things first. After all the flu is not bothering Obama, it's Fox news................................

My GF is a nurse and general consensus in the medical field is that the normal everyday flu is worse than the H1N1. More people die from the flu than tis.

But this has a name... SWINE FLU. Something we can target as the cause of our fear. Like ASSAULT WEAPON or GLOBAL WARMING. It's not some conceptual entity like "the flu". We've all had "the flu" and mostly lived through it, but this is the SWINE FLU, and since we felt it was important enough to give it name that separates it from the regular, run of the mill seasonal flu, it must be so much more dangerous and deadly, and presents an opportunity not to be missed or minimized.

 

And last year it was bird flu.

 

This summer (at first) it was Mexican Swine Flu, then the Mexicans got upset, so the media called it Swine flue and the piggie farmers got their shorts in a wad, so now it's H1N1, soon the letters H and N and the number one from Sesame Street will be suing the media... :character-count:

Anyone remember SARS?

 

 

Ken, I am with you on this.

No doubt that the politicians are maneuvering the situation. However, the threat of a pandemic that could cripple society is quite feasible-- and scary as hell. I don't care about the media or politicians trying to sink that thought into my head-- I've read the intel reports on the possibilities (natural or man made)... and the impact could be absolutely devastating... and is not as far-fetched as people could imagine.

 

Regardless, this situation is preying on the fears of the greater whole. Last time this happened, the politicians signed in the PATRIOT Act without so much as reading it...

BBK, you are correct about the consequences a pandemic would have. Real or manufactured though, the political posturing and crushing restrictions of liberties would be a long term problem. How about those Presidential orders that direct FEMA to suspend the constitution and impose martial law. Given this would be a worldwide issue, I can see Blue Helmets on our shores. And they did a great job keeping the peace while raping women in Africa.

BBK, you are correct about the consequences a pandemic would have. Real or manufactured though, the political posturing and crushing restrictions of liberties would be a long term problem. How about those Presidential orders that direct FEMA to suspend the constitution and impose martial law. Given this would be a worldwide issue, I can see Blue Helmets on our shores. And they did a great job keeping the peace while raping women in Africa.

 

 

The consequences in today's society of a genuine global pandemic are quite real. There are things that we as Americans have NOT been vaccinated for that IMO pose a real threat to our society. Right about 1970, the doctors stopped vaccinating the public (in the US) against smallpox. The WHO maintains that it has been eradicated, but certain countries (think Kim Jong MentallyIl) did not participate with the WHO program.

Dan you are right about the innoculations, for good or bad I have been inoculated for anything you can think of at that time. Even walked the Gauntlet and recieved extra shots for what you can not think of. I think there is a reason why my shot records dissapeared before my EAS. :?

Dan you are right about the innoculations, for good or bad I have been inoculated for anything you can think of at that time. Even walked the Gauntlet and recieved extra shots for what you can not think of. I think there is a reason why my shot records dissapeared before my EAS. :?

I hear you. I received the line o' shots at BCT, and then the follow ups. I then was inoculated again when I got to my unit. And then for certain situations, I received even more that I'd rather not name. And then big Army misplaced my shot records, and I was inoculated all over again... not to mention the yearly flu shots.

Just got the nasal vaccine today. My office received a supply of vaccines and initially offered them to employees falling under the at risk criteria. After only 6 people received the vaccine, they opened it up to the rest of us.

Co-workers daughter got diag'd last night with it.....

Just got the nasal vaccine today. My office received a supply of vaccines and initially offered them to employees falling under the at risk criteria. After only 6 people received the vaccine, they opened it up to the rest of us.

 

Me too. I get the seasonal vaccine every year but was not really thrilled about this one.

 

However I have a doctor I trust and he said that if it's available, and I actually believe what I say about herd immunity, then I should put my money where my mouth is and get it. rofl... I really like that guy.

 

My only regret is that it didn't taste like bacon!!! :mrgreen:

 

Also for the SHTF "crazies", why WOULDN'T you get this? If "bad stuff" occurs and I need to lock it down, I want to know that I'm not going to be one of the infected. Seems reasonable?

I personally don't really trust modern medicine. I mean who has their fingers in officials' pockets? I guess my suspicion is not pointed at the medicine itself (necessarily), but my suspicion lies with the companies asked to create and distribute these vaccines.

Also, seeing how this is just the flu, if I got it-- I'd rather sweat it out, and move forward without any vaccine.

 

For reference. I remember in my days with the military, they shot us up with everything. It was even worse if you were going anywhere else in the world. They would shoot you up with everything without so much telling you what it was for. If you questioned them, they would say it wasn't for your knowledge, but just a part of the process. If you didn't want it, you would get reprimanded (to include the annual flu shots). So, no thanks.

Personally, I do not believe this Swine flu BS....

 

Remember the Swine flu of 1976?

 

Remember all of the people getting horrendous negative reactions from the government sponsored immunizations?

 

It is the same crap being sold by the media then as it is now....

 

Look this up yourself....

 

Google and type in "Swine flu 1976"

 

And some people do not believe that history repeats itself.

 

Wake up and get your collective heads out of your ***** America!