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wow. At first i was ticked off... route 33, my road.... but its ok, in Neptune.

 

anyone goign to go out of their way to go through the checkpoint?

I Believe we are required now to publish dates and times for DWI Checkpoints, some County prosecutors also require the exact location be published ahead of time as well. I'm personally not a big fan of them, i'd MUCH rather work a roving patrol for DWI.

They announce checkpoints all the time on 101.5 usually during the denis and michelle show.

 

I dont think this constitutes entrapment, entrapment is when a government agency influences you in breaking the law. You drinking and driving, you already broke the law without any government agencies influence.

They announce checkpoints all the time on 101.5 usually during the denis and michelle show.

 

I dont think this constitutes entrapment, entrapment is when a government agency influences you in breaking the law. You drinking and driving, you already broke the law without any government agencies influence.

 

 

This..... the ONLY way DUI would be "Entrapment" is if the PD supplied the booze then assisted you into the car before stopping you. Even sitting outside a Bar isnt "Entrapment"..ir COULD be construed as "Hunting staked game" perhaps..but not entrapment.

heres a thought: Don't drive drunk. You can hurt people besides your stupid idiot self

 

the penalties arent strict enough for Drunk drivers in my opinion

Some questions:

 

1. If you see a DUI checkpoint, and avoid it, will the police chase you down?

2. Can they write you up for other things in the checkpoint? Or just DUIs?

heres a thought: Don't drive drunk. You can hurt people besides your stupid idiot self

 

the penalties arent strict enough for Drunk drivers in my opinion

Amen to that.

Some questions:

 

1. If you see a DUI checkpoint, and avoid it, will the police chase you down?

2. Can they write you up for other things in the checkpoint? Or just DUIs?

 

 

DA, there are usually a few patrols roving the area to see if there are people that turn around. Some people are just looking for an alternate route because they do not want to wait in traffic, or they think its a accident or whatever. But there are a few that turn around because they are oiled up a bit. If it looks like they are drunk, they initiate a stop. Not sure if all towns do this, but I know thats how we use to do it.

 

The most ingenous thing I've seen, which is even better than advertising a checkpoint in the paper, was a huge yellow flashing construction sign with the words "DWI CHECKPOINT AHEAD" . . . now thats smart huh?

 

Maybe they had a few cars sitting right by the sign to see who turns around at that point?

 

 

Now, if they ever have a eating and driving checkpoint, you better let me and tiny know so we can avoid that area!

Some questions:

 

1. If you see a DUI checkpoint, and avoid it, will the police chase you down? Yes, if business is slow and if manpower permits.

2. Can they write you up for other things in the checkpoint? Absolutely Or just DUIs?

The one they set up in Old Bridge on Rt 35/Laurence Harbor usually late (12 midnight-ish) on Friday or Saturday is set up around a curve and it's on the highway, so that there is no way to turn around without making it obvious and then driving on the wrong side of the road.

 

I've been out and about around it, and they seem to set it up pretty quickly and take it down pretty quickly as well.. and from what I read in the paper, it seems to have a pretty high rate of catching DWI's. My friend was an idiot and got caught there.

 

I went through it once, but I of course wasn't drinking, just tired. The officers were polite and courteous.. so I can't complain. And it's at midnight, so it really doesn't hold up traffic.

 

The one they set up during weekdays in Sayerville on 35 southbound is retarted. It's one PO, I guess he's checking Seat Belt's and inspections.. backs up traffic for miles.

I definitely agree that DWI checkpoints are not entrapment. They are really no different than police officers setting up hidden speed traps. It is not entrapment in either cases; entrapment is the act of a law enforcement agent inducing a person to commit an illegal act and the person would have otherwise been unlikely to commit.

 

Entrapment for a DWI would be something along the lines of a police officer inviting passing people into a bar, buying them whatever drinks they want (maybe even going so far as to say 'No, don't worry about a DWI, I'm not going to arrest you for driving drunk'), and then pulling them over right as they are leaving the bar. In this case, an average person would not have stopped at a random bar and would not have had any alcoholic beverages. The officer would be enticing people to come into the bar, and then enticing those people to drink alcoholic beverages by paying their tab.

 

That would be entrapment.

 

With a DWI checkpoint, no law enforcement officer enticed those people to stop at a bar that they would have just driven past, nor did any law enforcement officers entice those people into drinking more than what they normally would drink by paying for them.

It just seems like setting it up the way they do might not be the best use of the tax payer's funds. These guys are all brought in, presumably on OT, and they have to get the road dept involved off standard hours, and they roll out the mobile command center and dedicate so much time and money to it. While the rest of the town still needs coverage as well.

 

In my own opinion.. the money would be better spent putting more cops on the road (to also help with other crimes and medical calls, and everything else they do), and giving them more advanced training on how to catch drunk drivers.

 

Kind of like the grant they got to have an "undercover" cop (PO in jeans and a t shirt with a fluorescent vest) try and walk out in front of traffic. While the uniformed guy waits to hand out tickets to drivers who fail to yeild... more cops on the street.. and they could give out these tickets in their normal course of duty..

 

But that's just my opinion, and BTW.. I'm not anti-cop.

We are supposed to be Law abiding citizens! We have F.I.C.'s so what the hell are you doing driving around intoxicated! Even if your bac level is just at the limit or just under, and someone gets into an accident with you and they're not drinking at all ,I'm pretty sure that if the leo. smell's just a whiff of what you had a few hours ago you'd be up S.C.W.A.P.! :naughty:

We are supposed to be Law abiding citizens! We have F.I.C.'s so what the hell are you doing driving around intoxicated! Even if your bac level is just at the limit or just under, and someone gets into an accident with you and they're not drinking at all ,I'm pretty sure that if the leo. smell's just a whiff of what you had a few hours ago you'd be up S.C.W.A.P.! :naughty:

 

Who advocated drinking and driving?

Just sayin.