I store some of my long guns loaded while they're in the safe. I have to contort myself a bit to avoid muzzle sweeping my torso when taking them out of the safe and I'm thinking that in an emergency if I was rushing to get one out that it's a serious risk.

 

Is there any issue with storing long guns in a safe with the muzzle on the floor ( say on a piece of cardboard to avoid getting crap in the barrel) and the stock against the wall, other than it being less stable? The way I have things arranged in my safe, the stocks end up sitting in the barrel notches on the safe wall so it's not like they're going to fall out when the safe door is opened.

barrel down is a preferred way of storage - keeps any oil from running out of action or barrel + soaking into wood stocks or gumming up triggers + actions - i would use something non porous instead of cardboard under muzzles - make sure that they are secure + won't slip or fall -

Yes there is an issue....THEY ARE LOADED.

Do you really need to keep them loaded? You can keep the rifles muzzle up...no problems.

When you oil the rifle...don't soak them. A light film in the barrel is all you need.

Yes there is an issue....THEY ARE LOADED.

 

And this makes what difference in handling them?

 

Do you really need to keep them loaded?

 

Yes, if they are to fulfill their HD purpose, they should be kept loaded IMO.

 

When you oil the rifle...don't soak them. A light film in the barrel is all you need.

 

I use tetra grease for lube and their triple action for cleaning/coating. There's never any excess left to drip anywhere.

I store all my doubles and s x s barrels down but never rifles becouse i dont want to damage the crown

'To each his own' accident waiting to happen.......How many loaded are you using for HD?

'To each his own' accident waiting to happen.......How many loaded are you using for HD?

 

The only ones kept loaded are the ones I think would be effective for HD.

 

Any other information relevant to my original question I can provide for you? Would you like my address, the safe keypad code and the hours I'm generally home as well? :roll:

I store all my doubles and s x s barrels down but never rifles becouse i dont want to damage the crown

 

Roger that tt. I'll ensure that the muzzles ends aren't sitting on anything that can damage them.

I see that we are going off tangent......I only asked a question...how many? If you have

twenty loaded guns all around the house....you are nuts. If you keep, say..oh... one or two,

that's a different story....get where i'm going with this? Not to step on your toes.It's only a conversation. Not a breach into your business.

I see that we are going off tangent......I only asked a question...how many? If you have

twenty loaded guns all around the house....you are nuts. If you keep, say..oh... one or two,

that's a different story....get where i'm going with this? Not to step on your toes.It's only a conversation. Not a breach into your business.

 

Ok, then thanks for your concern.

I do not think a long gun is a good hd gun unless you live in a mansion.

 

You do not have a pistol? or a shotgun?

Why is bbl down recommended?

I do not think a long gun is a good hd gun unless you live in a mansion.

 

You do not have a pistol? or a shotgun?

 

I consider both my shotgun and beretta storm to be long guns.

chad barrels down on a double becouse any oil in barrels ,action or frame will by gravity go down hill old doubles allowed oil to seep into butt stock thats why when you inspect an old double such as lc smith baker crescent you look at the rear of the side plates for cracks and or oil with enough oil in the wood the locks dont work screws pull out then you usualy have to replace the wood and expect to pay $500 -1200 for goodwork

IMO, muzzle down is the preferred way to go. Besides keeping unwanted oil out of the action, stock, etc, think about what you will do when there is a situation. For me, it is a bit easier, and faster, to take a rifle (muzzle down), present the rifle, and obtain sight picture/alignment than a rifle that is muzzle up.

 

And I don't think keeping 1 or 20 loaded guns in the house is dangerous. You treat every weapon as if it were loaded. If you have not familiarized all persons in a household with firearms, you are not being a responsible gun owner. That is the only way I can think of where it would be dangerous. If you hide guns from family members, THAT is dangerous.

chad barrels down on a double becouse any oil in barrels ,action or frame will by gravity go down hill old doubles allowed oil to seep into butt stock thats why when you inspect an old double such as lc smith baker crescent you look at the rear of the side plates for cracks and or oil with enough oil in the wood the locks dont work screws pull out then you usualy have to replace the wood and expect to pay $500 -1200 for goodwork

 

Cool....thanks for that info. Makes sense to me.

If you're going to do this, I suggest you make a holder with a wooden plate and pegs to hold them in place but still pull right out. Stand one up against a piece of plywood and you will see likely places to put the pegs.

 

I might keep a couple of loaded & locked things and will consider up-ending them.

 

Just don't make the mistake of keeping the loaded and handy for HD. Much more likely to loose them in a smash & grab than to need them for HD. If LEO is a 5 minute response, the BG has 4 1/2" to get er done and be gone. Not preaching to the choir but I have seen it both ways.

I always liked the idea of the "hot safe" and the "cold safe", just adds another layer of protection. But of course.. only a few of us are lucky enough to have this option.

I still say that if you are getting leakage into the receiver and your stock is getting wet.......

Your using too much oil.

I'm not sure where the perception of guns lying all around my place is coming from. I'm asking about storing them muzzle down in a SAFE.