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Man stole guns to trade for heroin

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I hate junkies

 

 

Me too. They'll steal you blind for a fix. I've known a few and it doesn't take long to notice the erratic behavior and the constant lies.

Somebody is going to be very luck to get their guns back!

Somebody is going to be very luck to get their guns back!

might get them back , might not - going to have to prove ownership + eligability first -

Somebody is going to be very luck to get their guns back!

might get them back , might not - going to have to prove ownership + eligability first -

 

Hmmm. Owner must surely have reported the theft. That and maybe warranty registration with manufacturer if bought new. If purchased in NJ there's plenty of documentation, COE, 4473 at store, etc. If purchased prior to moving to NJ, there may be no paper doc in NJ, but there might be some from the other state. If it comes down to no doc at all (but legal), there still should be something. Maybe shooting buddies that know the guns and can state they belong to their friend, range receipts, hunting licenses past, etc....

 

Hell even some spent casings might be marked up enough to identify the specific gun. I guess for anyone who owns weapons from prior to moving to NJ, they probably should take pictures with serial numbers, newspaper front page, and maybe driver license or FPID.

 

Sucks to have to fight to regain your own property.

n.j. places proof of ownership on the individual - depending on the jurisdiction they will not help you -

n.j. places proof of ownership on the individual - depending on the jurisdiction they will not help you -

 

I don't doubt this, but would seem to smack right across freedom from unreasonable search and seizure. How does a person who moved to NJ with other-state purchased guns, say bought legally without papers, or received as a gift from a passed-on relative? How does one prove ownership, and does that mean the state can simply confiscate, then keep or destroy people's guns who simply can't "prove" what was stolen from them, was theirs?

 

I don't know if Maks would comment on this but I feel a sense of soviet-ness about the whole thing. It disgusts me.

 

unclenunzie

n.j. places proof of ownership on the individual - depending on the jurisdiction they will not help you -

 

I don't doubt this, but would seem to smack right across freedom from unreasonable search and seizure. How does a person who moved to NJ with other-state purchased guns, say bought legally without papers, or received as a gift from a passed-on relative? How does one prove ownership, and does that mean the state can simply confiscate, then keep or destroy people's guns who simply can't "prove" what was stolen from them, was theirs?

 

I don't know if Maks would comment on this but I feel a sense of soviet-ness about the whole thing. It disgusts me.

 

unclenunzie

 

It's pretty much the same as any other stolen property, iirc. If you don't have a receipt for your stolen toaster, how do you prove it's yours?

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n.j. places proof of ownership on the individual - depending on the jurisdiction they will not help you -

 

I don't doubt this, but would seem to smack right across freedom from unreasonable search and seizure. How does a person who moved to NJ with other-state purchased guns, say bought legally without papers, or received as a gift from a passed-on relative? How does one prove ownership, and does that mean the state can simply confiscate, then keep or destroy people's guns who simply can't "prove" what was stolen from them, was theirs?

 

I don't know if Maks would comment on this but I feel a sense of soviet-ness about the whole thing. It disgusts me.

 

unclenunzie

 

It's pretty much the same as any other stolen property, iirc. If you don't have a receipt for your stolen toaster, how do you prove it's yours?

 

Another food thread??? lmaooooooo

 

Another food thread??? lmaooooooo

 

Well I know if someone stole my favorite Gyro Cooker, I'd go on a rampage and hunt them down.

 

Another food thread??? lmaooooooo

 

Well I know if someone stole my favorite Gyro Cooker, I'd go on a rampage and hunt them down.

worse yet, The Coffee Pot :o

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