I know that to buy a pistol the procedure is to have the PA FFL send the gun to your NJ FFL to do a transfer. My question is, since registration is voluntary in NJ, where is it in the law that says we can't just buy a pistol in PA and bring it home?

I know that to buy a pistol the procedure is to have the PA FFL send the gun to your NJ FFL to do a transfer. My question is, since registration is voluntary in NJ, where is it in the law that says we can't just buy a pistol in PA and bring it home?

 

It's a Federal Law. No pistols across state lines.

Yup all pistols have to go through a FFL within the sate you reside.

If a resident from PA moves to NJ, he may bring firearms with him, and he does not have to register them.

 

If a NJ resident goes to PA, he will not be able to purchase a handgun from a PA dealer, without a state to state transfer. If that same NJ resident purchases from a private individual, now you have an illegal purchase.

 

My advice--don't risk it. Getting caught will not only put you in prison, but will screw things up for law abiding gun owners everywhere, as liberals start screaming about our "lax" gun laws and how we need more restrictions to protect our children!

If a resident from PA moves to NJ, he may bring firearms with him, and he does not have to register them.

 

If a NJ resident goes to PA, he will not be able to purchase a handgun from a PA dealer, without a state to state transfer. If that same NJ resident purchases from a private individual, now you have an illegal purchase.

 

My advice--don't risk it. Getting caught will not only put you in prison, but will screw things up for law abiding gun owners everywhere, as liberals start screaming about our "lax" gun laws and how we need more restrictions to protect our children!

 

I believe PA and NJ law says you can't do a long gun FTF out of state.

^^^I was referring mainly to handguns there.

 

My understanding of rifle and shotgun purchases out of state is that a NJ resident may purchase them from a licensed dealer (whether a PA or NJ dealer). A purchase from a private party would require a transfer to a NJ dealer. Additionally, the rifle has to be NJ compliant (no circumventing NJ's assault weapons law by purchasing in PA).

^^^I was referring mainly to handguns there.

 

My understanding of rifle and shotgun purchases out of state is that a NJ resident may purchase them from a licensed dealer (whether a PA or NJ dealer). A purchase from a private party would require a transfer to a NJ dealer. Additionally, the rifle has to be NJ compliant (no circumventing NJ's assault weapons law by purchasing in PA).

 

I'm pretty sure for an out-of-state private party long arms, you just need A FFL.. not necessarily a NJ state dealer. So if you are at a gun show and a guy is walking around with a rifle you want to buy (assuming the long arm is NJ Legal).. then you can just go to anyone of the number of FFL's there who would be willing to do a transfer for you. Then you can bring it home with you.

I am wondering now...What if you have a legal bona-fide residence in BOTH states?

I am wondering now...What if you have a legal bona-fide residence in BOTH states?

 

Most states have laws against maintaining two driver's licenses (one in each state). Most gun sales (outside of NJ) require a driver's license as identification/age verification.

What about a valid/current US Passport? Certainly, buying a gun in a Free State does not mandate a driver's license. Let's say I'm a Billionaire, I'm 70 yrs old, I get privately chaufeurred EVERYWHERE I go. I have residents in multiple states Free and non.

 

Interesting dilema...

What about a valid/current US Passport?

 

Interesting dilema...

 

Passport never has an address in it.

:idea:

Even if u don't drive, the state issues non-driver ID cards.

 

Do you have residence in both states, or are u simply playing a wild hypothetical?

 

Keep in mind that under NJ law, if charged with a weapons offense, you are presumed guilty until proven innocent. Your only shot at an acquittal is an affimative defense, where you have to prove that you were legal. Do you really want to tempt fate?

On the 4473, question #13 says "What is your state of residence if any?" But then the definition 5 goes on to list situations like Armed Forces, and Aliens.

 

I found this here: http://www.handgun-shotguntraining.com/ ... rearms.pdf

 

What constitutes residency in a state?

The state of residence is the state in which an individual is present with the intention of making a

home in that state. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty is a resident of the state in

which his or her permanent duty station is located. If a member of the Armed Forces maintains a

home in one state and the member's permanent duty station is in a nearby state to which he or

she commutes each day, then the member may purchase a firearm in either the state where the

duty station is located or the state where the home is maintained. An alien who is legally in the

United states is considered to be a resident of a state only if the alien is residing in that state and

has resided in that state continuously for a period of at least 90 days prior to the date of sale of

the firearm. [18 U. S. C. 921( b) and 922( b)( 3), 27 CFR 178.11]

 

May a person who resides in one state and owns property in another state purchase a

handgun in either state?

 

If a person maintains a home in 2 states and resides in both states for certain periods of the year,

he or she may, during the period of time the person actually resides in a particular state,

purchase a handgun in that state. But simply owning property in another state does not qualify

the person to purchase a handgun in that state.

I recently moved from PA to NJ, and I have a (of course) legally-acquired handgun which I brought with me. From everything I have read, unless I intend to purchase a new or used handgun in NJ, I am under no obligation to apply for a Firearms Purchaser ID Card or a Permit to Purchase a Handgun. Further, while I may voluntarily register my handgun with the NJSP, I am under no obligation to do so. Is my understanding of current NJ law correct?

 

To be succinct - is there anything I need to do - any forms to fill out - any notifications to be made - in order to keep legal?

 

Thanks for your help.

I recently moved from PA to NJ, and I have a (of course) legally-acquired handgun which I brought with me. From everything I have read, unless I intend to purchase a new or used handgun in NJ, I am under no obligation to apply for a Firearms Purchaser ID Card or a Permit to Purchase a Handgun. Further, while I may voluntarily register my handgun with the NJSP, I am under no obligation to do so. Is my understanding of current NJ law correct?

 

To be succinct - is there anything I need to do - any forms to fill out - any notifications to be made - in order to keep legal?

 

Thanks for your help.

Nothing you NEED to do. You may want to apply for a FPID card to buy ammo for it.