Does anyone have hatred towards these camera's they are putting on the lights? I remember coming home from Florida (driving) and I was in Washington when I flew by a cop doing about 55 in a 50. As I passed him I see a bright light that I thought was lightning in the sky, then about 2-3 weeks later I got a ticket in the mail and a picture of the back of the car. Not even able to talk to the cop about going 5 mph over the limit, kinda gets rid of discretion.

 

These camera's I feel are gonna cause more accidents than being helpful. Especially now you hear in other states they were reducing the time of the yellow light so they could increase revenue. So basically this becomes a safety v.s. revenue trap, eventually.

 

Ahh well had to vent a little and make my point, I think soon they will have Robo-Cop anyway..

Does anyone have hatred towards these camera's they are putting on the lights? I remember coming home from Florida (driving) and I was in Washington when I flew by a cop doing about 55 in a 50. As I passed him I see a bright light that I thought was lightning in the sky, then about 2-3 weeks later I got a ticket in the mail and a picture of the back of the car. Not even able to talk to the cop about going 5 mph over the limit, kinda gets rid of discretion.

 

These camera's I feel are gonna cause more accidents than being helpful. Especially now you hear in other states they were reducing the time of the yellow light so they could increase revenue. So basically this becomes a safety v.s. revenue trap, eventually.

 

Ahh well had to vent a little and make my point, I think soon they will have Robo-Cop anyway..

 

0.8 seconds after the light turned red... NYC - yeah, FU too Bloomberg.

In Europe, burning speed cameras is an art form.

 

http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso2.htm

DC was ticketing Cops and Firemen going to calls for going through the lights...so they began stopping for them.

What the hell is 5 over the limit...Speeding is speeding. It's the Judges call, no one else's.

As for toasting the cameras...... Watch your registration go to $300 a year. Got to pay for those things somehow. Don't forget where you live.......N. J.

What the hell is 5 over the limit...Speeding is speeding. It's the Judges call, no one else's.

As for toasting the cameras...... Watch your registration go to $300 a year. Got to pay for those things somehow. Don't forget where you live.......N. J.

 

Germany has sensible speed limits. I.E. none out in the boonies, 130kph as you near towns and then it's modified in towns as conditions warrant.

 

The US has essentially arbitrary speed limits, set artificially low to generate revenue. It isn't a safety issue in most cases.

 

5mph over is horsesnit. 25 over might be an issue...it really depends on conditions.

Boy talk about a bunch of angry people :twisted: If it is that bad that you feel the need to burn the camera, maybe you need to re-evaluate your mental capacity!!

Boy talk about a bunch of angry people :twisted: If it is that bad that you feel the need to burn the camera, maybe you need to re-evaluate your mental capacity!!

 

I think it is quite a bit more about government intrusion in our lives. They place the cameras at points where it is natural to be doing over the speed limit to generate maximum revenue. It's underhanded and it stinks and it serves no one's purpose except to fatten the larder of incompetent bureaucrats.

So guys, the problem with red light cameras is that 1) they are nearly 100% misinstalled, giving tickets when they shouldn't. A NMA survey found that 100% of the red lights with cameras they found had improperly short yellow light periods, significantly increasing accidents, 2) they are run by private companies, so you have government abdicating their responsibility to uphold the law to a profit-based firm, and 3) there is an increased accident rate (almost all rear-end collisions) at every single red light NMA surveyed.

 

So, 1) they are installed incorrectly on purpose to increase revenue, 2) government has improperly ceded the duties to a for profit firm, and 3) they measurably increase dangerous accidents.

 

Check out the NMA / National Motorists Association for more info.

The big problem I see is if you run a red in bad weather or if you are pulling a heavy load behind you. I would be pissed if i had to go through since I couldnt stop due to the changing light and get a ticket.

Here in my town, we just got them up and running. So far no incidents that i've seen. The minimum amber is 3 seconds and higher in wider intersections like Rt 21, where you'll find a 3.5 sec amber and 2 sec red around. Enough time to get across and not get "flashed"!!!

Boy talk about a bunch of angry people :twisted: If it is that bad that you feel the need to burn the camera, maybe you need to re-evaluate your mental capacity!!

 

hey I think in the long run they are keeping police employed.

Here in my town, we just got them up and running. So far no incidents that i've seen. The minimum amber is 3 seconds and higher in wider intersections like Rt 21, where you'll find a 3.5 sec amber and 2 sec red around. Enough time to get across and not get "flashed"!!!

 

 

IIRC NJDOT sets the standards for Amber length. In the other states, the Companies who run the cameras, who also, incedentally get a cut from every summons, bevgan fiddlign with the Amber times...with an attendant increase in both summonses, and accidents. As far as Speed cameras, they're prohibited by statute here, so bringing them into the discussion is pointless.

Here in my town, we just got them up and running. So far no incidents that i've seen. The minimum amber is 3 seconds and higher in wider intersections like Rt 21, where you'll find a 3.5 sec amber and 2 sec red around. Enough time to get across and not get "flashed"!!!

 

 

IIRC NJDOT sets the standards for Amber length. In the other states, the Companies who run the cameras, who also, incedentally get a cut from every summons, bevgan fiddlign with the Amber times...with an attendant increase in both summonses, and accidents. As far as Speed cameras, they're prohibited by statute here, so bringing them into the discussion is pointless.

 

:pray: :clap:

As far as Speed cameras, they're prohibited by statute here, so bringing them into the discussion is pointless.

 

That'll change as New Jersey's budget woes deepen...

 

--Daniel