I need some help from our HK owners here. I have 3 permits coming and I think one os going towards a 9mm P30 or P30L. I've read that it is designed to shoot nato ammo (124 gr) and I was wondering if 115 gr 9mm ammo will cycle properly through it. I've read that the first 500 rounds should be 124 gr, but I'm curious with others' experience past the break in period.

I love the p30l, with the V3 trigger. cycles 115 gr ammo no problem, even my light loads.

 

During the first 500, I did have one stovepipe/FTE, but otherwise, terrific.

 

This firearm is also a win in the cleaning department.... the frame hardly ever gets dirty.

I had a slightly different experiance but worked out well in the end. I have the P30L.

 

1st 150 rounds winchester white 115gr maybe 1 stovepipe

Next 50 rounds Fiocchi fragible (99grain and i didnt notice) and every other round jammed.

Then I heard what you heard,

Tried remington 115gr and over 100 rounds had too many stovepipes 3-4, took some advice from HKpro

Took the gun home cleaned and oiled it really well, went to the range and put through a mix of ammo, remington and winchesters after a few hundred rounds no issues at all, cycled beautifully. Really restored my confidence in it and now keep it by the bed.

 

I would buy it, lube it up well and I bet you will be good to go.

Next 50 rounds Fiocchi fragible (99grain and i didnt notice) and every other round jammed.

 

Not many guns like frangible ammo. The sintered metal disintegrates as the round gets chambered. It's better in a revolver, where the feeding action doesn't cause it to fall apart prematurely.

I have a P30. It has never, ever had any malf of any kind...until Sunday. Last round of S&B 9mm didn't lock the slide back.

 

I've run roughly 1100 rounds through it and cleaned it 4 times.

 

Initially, I gave it a light cleaning. I racked the slide 50ish times with the mag out, and shot Lawman 115gr for the first 100. After that...whatever I could find with no issues at all.

 

Great gun. I can recommend it.

Thanks everyone for the information. Is it trustworthy enough to use as a home defense weapon? I have a Glock 22 that I use now, but I'm considering selling it to finance the HK, Wather, and Beretta I'm considering purchasing.

Thanks everyone for the information. Is it trustworthy enough to use as a home defense weapon? I have a Glock 22 that I use now, but I'm considering selling it to finance the HK, Wather, and Beretta I'm considering purchasing.

 

I just shot one last night at Shore Shot (member Bry@an's wifes gun). It is a pleasure to shoot, and the best thing is that the grip is easily configurable if it is to be used by more than one person (i.e. both you and your significant other can use the same gun). I had a HK P2000. Another great gun. The best if you're a lefty. All ambi controls, not just the safety.

They have different versions of the DA/SA Trigger? How can you tell which "version" the pistol has? Is it on the box? I'm considering getting one of these in DA/SA.

 

thanks!

 

I love the p30l, with the V3 trigger. cycles 115 gr ammo no problem, even my light loads.

 

During the first 500, I did have one stovepipe/FTE, but otherwise, terrific.

 

This firearm is also a win in the cleaning department.... the frame hardly ever gets dirty.

Is it trustworthy enough to use as a home defense weapon?

 

Most definitely.

The p30 has different trigger versions. One is DA/SA and the rest are the LEM trigger. I have the V3 LEM trigger that I am waiting on springs from HK to make the trigger 4-5lbs. I love the gun and can't wait till next week when I can take it home!!!

 

My wife has the P30l and that's what Lunker shot last night. I believe it only comes in DA/SA right now, but that will change soon. They are working on getting the new versions out.

 

Awesome gun, light weight, the grip is great and I can't say enough about it.

 

I shot Maksim's, which nudged me to get the wife to buy one and then I bought the P30 as a result.

This will be my HD gun and is already my wifes.

Yeah I held a P30 at BH and loved the grip. I want to get the DA/SA version and I understand I can get the LEM trigger kit and just install it myself if I want to. What's up with all the version numbers? what's the difference between say V2 and V3 LEM?

I did a lot of reading on HKpro.com and asked about the trigger.

My thread

http://hkpro.com/forum/showthread.php?123078-Please-explain-LEM-trigger-for-a-newbie

 

p30L

http://hk-usa.com/civilian_products/p30l_general.asp

 

p30

http://hk-usa.com/civilian_products/p30_general.asp

 

The P30 Trigger Variants:

P30 (V0):?Innovative safety trigger with concealed cocking piece in the spurred hammer. Centrally located de-cocking button, with a constant enhanced double action only Law Enforcement Modification (LEM)* trigger pull of approximately 4.5 pounds (20 Newtons) without operation of the de-cocking latch, and defined let-off point.

P30 V1:?Innovative safety trigger with concealed cocking piece in the spurrless hammer, without de-cocking button. Constant LEM trigger pull of approximately 4.5 pounds (20 Newtons) and defined let-off point.

 

P30 V2:?Like P30 V1 but with LEM trigger pull of approximately 7.3 pounds (32.5N).

 

P30 V3:?Conventional single action/double action (SA/DA) trigger without cocking piece in the hammer with spur and centrally located decocking button.

 

P30 V4:?Like P30 V1, however LEM trigger pull approximately 6.2 pounds (27.5N).

 

P30 V6:?Conventional double action only (DAO) trigger without cocking piece in the spurrless hammer. Constant DAO trigger pull of approximately 8.8 pounds (39N).

I have a P30. It has never, ever had any malf of any kind...until Sunday. Last round of S&B 9mm didn't lock the slide back.

 

9x out of ten that's due to the operator riding the slide release.

 

I've run a few thousand rounds through my P30L at this point and it's been rock solid since the break-in period. I originally went out with some 115gr. PMC Bronze and the gun really didn't like that stuff before the recoil spring was broken in. Now it will eat anything.

 

As far as trusting the gun, I'd trust it with my life any day. I tortured the poor thing at GunForHire's outdoor training course and it functioned flawlessly the entire day. Accuracy is incredible and the recoil impulse is nonexistent.

I've never shot anything but 115g 9mm loads through my P30. Never a hiccup. I didnt even know it was meant for 124g ammo. Could have fooled me

 

I need some help from our HK owners here. I have 3 permits coming and I think one os going towards a 9mm P30 or P30L. I've read that it is designed to shoot nato ammo (124 gr) and I was wondering if 115 gr 9mm ammo will cycle properly through it. I've read that the first 500 rounds should be 124 gr, but I'm curious with others' experience past the break in period.

I have a P30. It has never, ever had any malf of any kind...until Sunday. Last round of S&B 9mm didn't lock the slide back.

 

9x out of ten that's due to the operator riding the slide release.

 

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Not in my case. It happened to me once then tbtrout 15 rounds later. Same box of ammo. My grip does not hit the release.

 

I ran 100 wwb after that without issue.

My wife had this issue last night and was shooting 115gr....I didn't have the issue when I tested it. I have a feeling it has to do with the grip..

caused by weak ammo or limp wristing.

 

It's the ammo in my case.

I have 2 boxes of light loads and a few of commercial. will bring them both to test out today....

I have 2 boxes of light loads and a few of commercial. will bring them both to test out today....

Let me know how the light loads go. I have a box of 95 gr Extreme Shock. I think I'll stick with the Federal 124gr EMFJ when I get the HK.

Ooh, forgot to update this thread.

 

They shot amazingly well. Both through my P30L, and Bry@n's brand new P30. Shot both commercial federal stuff, and my light 115gr loads. Cycled just fine, almost no muzzle jump.

Yeah they were great. If I was to go into a match, I would want those loads. They were great.

 

Can't wait till monday when I bring home the new toy.

Its got somewhere in the neighborhood of 400 rounds down the pipe now.

I just bought the H&K P30L. I only shot it once and ran about 250 rounds of 115 through it. Not a single issue. Shoots VERY clean. I used the WOLF fmj steel jacket 115 rounds.

 

Frank

I just bought the H&K P30L. I only shot it once and ran about 250 rounds of 115 through it. Not a single issue. Shoots VERY clean. I used the WOLF fmj steel jacket 115 rounds.

 

Frank

 

First 500 rounds or so, shoot heavier grain stuff, or hotter loads. The spring on the P30's was designed for heavier stuff. After the break in, it will cycle anything.

 

I would avoid steel case stuff in an Hk though.... just doesn't seem right.

I just bought the H&K P30L. I only shot it once and ran about 250 rounds of 115 through it. Not a single issue. Shoots VERY clean. I used the WOLF fmj steel jacket 115 rounds.

 

Frank

 

 

 

I would avoid steel case stuff in an Hk though.... just doesn't seem right.

 

It's like running retreads on a Ferrari.

It's like running retreads on a Ferrari.

On the plus side, they worked fine when I ran a handful thru your P30

It's like running retreads on a Ferrari.

On the plus side, they worked fine when I ran a handful thru your P30

 

Didn't say they wouldn't work, nor did I suggest they would otherwise harm the gun...it's just slumming it

Ouch! 8-)

 

Frank

It's like running retreads on a Ferrari.

On the plus side, they worked fine when I ran a handful thru your P30

 

Didn't say they wouldn't work, nor did I suggest they would otherwise harm the gun...it's just slumming it

 

The only catastrophic failure I've ever seen from an HK was with Russian steel-cased stuff. Blew the frame of an HK45 out.

So far so good. I have fed it several hundred rounds with no problem *BUT* I am a brand new gun owner and frankly, I had no idea what I was buying. I will defer to my wiser brethren here in the forum upon my next purchase. Unfortunately, I bought 1500 rounds, which I will have to shoot first.

 

So, please tell me what is the difference between brass and steel? I really have no idea.

 

Frank