I just shot one of these recently and like it. I dont remember it having a safety though. Does it?

It looks to be DA/SA so it won't have a safety.

No safety but has a decocker. Why would anyone need a safety on a DA with decocker? One more thing to go wrong. $425 is a steal for a LN Sig, too bad it's .40 and that's not my fav caliber for compact gun like this. This thing will be gone in a second at this price on Sigforums.

No safety but has a decocker. Why would anyone need a safety on a DA with decocker? One more thing to go wrong. $425 is a steal for a LN Sig, too bad it's .40 and that's not my fav caliber for compact gun like this. This thing will be gone in a second at this price on Sigforums.

 

+1. Great gun. A friend in PA has it as his CCW piece. It's a nice shooter.

so when you have the decocker lever pressed, it is like a safety? If someone picked it up and started pulling the trigger it would not fire until you release the lever?

Nope.... the decocker just moves the guns from SA condition (Hammer cocked with a 3lb pull) to DA Condition, hammer down on hammer safety bar (with a 6lb approx pull). It then becomes a trigger like a DA revolver.

 

Most standard SIGs come with DA/SA triggers... there are no safeties per say... your finger is the safety. Just like a revolver.

 

Many people dont like the DA to SA shooting, but I think it is a good combat safety system. Condtion 1, cocked and locked like a 1991 makes to many people nervous. Heck, I get nervous with Glocks, cant see the hammer, still like then though. With a SIG you get the visual check of the hammer position, plus the safety of a DA pull with hammer down.

Nope.... the decocker just moves the guns from SA condition (Hammer cocked with a 3lb pull) to DA Condition, hammer down on hammer safety bar (with a 6lb approx pull). It then becomes a trigger like a DA revolver.

 

Most standard SIGs come with DA/SA triggers... there are no safeties per say... your finger is the safety. Just like a revolver.

 

Many people dont like the DA to SA shooting, but I think it is a good combat safety system. Condtion 1, cocked and locked like a 1991 makes to many people nervous. Heck, I get nervous with Glocks, cant see the hammer, still like then though. With a SIG you get the visual check of the hammer position, plus the safety of a DA pull with hammer down.

 

 

Thanks for clearing that up. I would have jumped on this if it had a saftey. Have a 3 and 1 year old, and i made a deal with the wife about having a safety, trigger lock, in safe.. lol

Understandable.... but listen to this logic.

 

You go and buy a 1991, FNP, Beretta 92... they all have safeties that block the trigger until safety is dropped or moved to fire position. This movement takes what... 8oz of pressure to move. Then the trigger can be pulled in DA mode if a SA/DA... usually at about 5pds. A 1911 can not have the trigger pulled unless it is in SA and cocked. The SIG take about 6pds. It is very hard for a child up to age 9 to pull a 6 or 7pd trigger. My 9yo athletic son has a hard time with my SIGS and DA Revolvers. Had less of a hard time with my FNP. A safety lever is mainly to protect from holstering accidents or the gun be wrestled away from user and going off during conflict, that is my opinion. The trigger finger and brain are only true safeties.

 

I quess the what I am getting at... I have gone through that exact exercise with my wife... the only true safety from the kids are safes... and education. Safe the gun, if needed for nightstand get a quick vault. Then make sure whatever gun you have you know how to use it. Then educate the kids when they get older.

Understandable.... but listen to this logic.

 

You go and buy a 1991, FNP, Beretta 92... they all have safeties that block the trigger until safety is dropped or moved to fire position. This movement takes what... 8oz of pressure to move. Then the trigger can be pulled in DA mode if a SA/DA... usually at about 5pds. A 1911 can not have the trigger pulled unless it is in SA and cocked. The SIG take about 6pds. It is very hard for a child up to age 9 to pull a 6 or 7pd trigger. My 9yo athletic son has a hard time with my SIGS and DA Revolvers. Had less of a hard time with my FNP. A safety lever is mainly to protect from holstering accidents or the gun be wrestled away from user and going off during conflict, that is my opinion. The trigger finger and brain are only true safeties.

 

I quess the what I am getting at... I have gone through that exact exercise with my wife... the only true safety from the kids are safes... and education. Safe the gun, if needed for nightstand get a quick vault. Then make sure whatever gun you have you know how to use it. Then educate the kids when they get older.

 

 

+1.

 

I will split this topic as it has, at this point, nothing to do with the original WTS post.

Factory pull weight on Sig DA/SA is not 6lb/3lb. In fact no service auto loading handguns nowadays I can think of other than semi custom 1911 come with a 4lb SA pull at the very least.

 

Sigs comes from factory with a 10+lb DA and 4+lb SA pull. All my Sigs came that way. It is a very safe system for carry. Your finger is the safety. The heavy DA pull plus hammer block will prevent any chance of AD unless someone intentionally pulls the trigger.

 

If you have child your gun should be locked away anyways so IMHO the safety is a moot point. In an immergency you can easily forget to undo your safety unless you train to the point where it's second nature to you. Besides the safety is much easier to move out of safe position for a child than the 10+lb DA pull.

Thanks Maks... I did let it spread a little. I appreciate your herding of the cats

Have a 3 and 1 year old, and i made a deal with the wife about having a safety, trigger lock, in safe.. lol

 

Classic P-series Sig's (DA/SA) have four integral safties. They are:

1) Firing pin safety block

2) Hammer intercept notch

3) Disconnector

4) Decocker

 

When the military was considering a new sidearm for SOCOM, one of the specifications called for an external safety (some of the tactical tupperware manufacturers added one so they could be considered) - the P220 was the only gun allowed to take an exception to that specification.

 

Keep in mind that the first D/A pull will be about 10# - 11# - beyond the capability of most young children. Even with that, and regardless of whether what you end up with has an external safety or not (which probably could be manipulated by a young child), your HD gun should be locked-up in a quick access container of some kind.

 

If I didn't already have a P239, I'd jump on that one with both feet - you will never find another - in that condition - for that price. For the person that disliked .40 S&W, a drop-in .357 Sig barrel is available for about $150.

 

HTH

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

If you have child your gun should be locked away anyways so IMHO the safety is a moot point. In an immergency you can easily forget to undo your safety unless you train to the point where it's second nature to you. Besides the safety is much easier to move out of safe position for a child than the 10+lb DA pull.

 

Just get a safe or take the frigging thing apart and leave it in pieces. Or you could just take out the spring & guide rod.