hi all, im looking at these 2 pistols, i notice that the p11 is a little shorter, but a little wider, but pf9 is little longer but less wider (flatter), in your opinion what matters more for comfort, shortness or flatness? im thinking flatter is better, but not really sure.

Thin is sexy.

Thin is sexy.

your right thin is sexy, iphone, ipad, etc. thanks for reminding me. i have seen on the kel tec site parkerized finish whats that look like?

Dave, I hope you can find these Kel-Tec pistols. You might wanna feel each one before taking the plunge. And as I understand it, they might be hard to find.

whats up ray ray, do you mean touching them feel, or shooting them feel? i have read some reports about the kel tecs being rough around the edges nothing a little light sanding could'nt take care of but if your talking about recoil feel, im not really recoil sensitive, shot a couple of hours worth of ammo at shore shot once and i shot .380, 9mm, .40 cal., to 45 cal. and a couple of 12 gauge shot guns everyone had sore wrists except me the next day. im might call bullet hole today to see if they have any available. i cant really use my permit until the june 25th, but im doing this early hoping i can score a pf9, if not ill jump on p11...

good luck, can't say I like your choices but at least their not 380's!