When transporting to the range, I know the ammo has to be separate from the cased gun but the ammo doesn't have to be locked in its own case correct?

the firearms fact sheet that I got from the EBPD says:

"... the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console."

 

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If its in the trunk it does not need to be locked. If its in a SUV, van, or other vehicle without a separate trunk it must be in a locked container apart from the weapon.

If its in the trunk it does not need to be locked. If its in a SUV, van, or other vehicle without a separate trunk it must be in a locked container apart from the weapon.

 

 

ammunition does not have to be locked in a vehicle as far as i know.. even in an SUV..

 

in a vehicle in which the firearm is being transported that does not have a SEPARATE trunk (SUV, hatchback, etc..) the FIREARM as far as I know has to be locked, and the ammunition has to be seperate (as in NOT loaded in the gun)..

 

maybe I am wrong but that is my understanding..

The firearm should not be directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle. If the vehicle does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm and ammunition must be in a locked container other than the vehicle's glove compartment or console.

It is my understanding that if you own a truck/SUV the firearm OR the ammo needs to be locked up. So when I go to the range I lock the slide back and use that stupid lock that comes with every handgun to secure my firearm. The ammo is then transported in their boxes.

I wont even go into how I transport my stuff in my regular cab pick-up

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The firearm should not be directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle. If the vehicle does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm and ammunition must be in a locked container other than the vehicle's glove compartment or console.

 

 

I think you are quoting the state police website.. but NOT the actual LAW.. again I could be wrong.. do you have a link or something..

Can I transport firearms by leaving both the firearm and ammo in a locked trunk without individually locking up either item? Or do I have to transport them in separate compartments?

Can I transport firearms by leaving both the firearm and ammo in a locked trunk without individually locking up either item? Or do I have to transport them in separate compartments?

 

 

if your trunk is separate from the pass compartment it is my understanding that the gun simply has to be unloaded and in a fastened container (not just flopping around)... I do not believe EITHER have to be locked..

It needs to be in a securely tied package. Theoretically you could drive around with a gun in its manufacturers box, as long as you taped it shut. This is how many people bring their guns home for the first time. When I brought my M44 home, it was in a gun bag with a zip tie on the zipper.

 

I could look up the law and quote that, but if the NJ State Police have ^^ listed on their website I'll just follow that. Really... is a $3 lock on a ammo can worth the hassle? Just lock it if you don't have a trunk.

It needs to be in a securely tied package. Theoretically you could drive around with a gun in its manufacturers box, as long as you taped it shut. This is how many people bring their guns home for the first time. When I brought my M44 home, it was in a gun bag with a zip tie on the zipper.

 

I could look up the law and quote that, but if the NJ State Police have ^^ listed on their website I'll just follow that. Really... is a $3 lock on a ammo can worth the hassle? Just lock it if you don't have a trunk.

 

 

It is annoying that they push false information.. the reason is this.. i drive a mustang (hatch) and if i happen to be out and see a good deal on ammo.. it would be ridiculous to assume that i have to drive home to get my locking ammo box then drive BACK to the store.. then home again.. further.. i try to minimize the amount of shit I have to lug around.. so sometimes if i am JUST bringing one caliber rifle to the range.. it is a LOT easier just to throw the ammo in my backpack as opposed to bringing one MORE container.. and again i was not even saying you were wrong.. but i am pretty sure it was discussed here before that the actual LAW does NOT say the same as what the state police say.. that is simply what they think you should do..

http://www.oldbridgerifle.com/NJ-gun-law.cfm

 

I think its a non-issue if you don't have a gun in the car as well. What are you gonna do, throw the bullets at somebody? Its all up to interpretation and the state police interpreted a rule that says if its not in a trunk its gotta be locked. They are the ones that will bust you, so why screw with the man?

 

Also, in order for this to even be a problem they need probable cause to search your vehicle. Ya know, if you get stopped on the way to the range for speeding or some minor offense, if the cop asks if you have guns just say no. Don't say where you are going either. Its none of their business unless they have probable cause to search your car, like smelling alcohol, drugs, non-minor offense, etc etc. Cops love asking you what you did wrong and asking you all about where you are coming from or going. None of that should be answered... cause they already got you on a ticket. They are just fishing to make it ironclad in court.

 

Ya know? Do you know what you did wrong? Gee sorry officer I don't know why you stopped me. You were speeding! OH, my speedo said I was going the speed limit!!! Where are you coming from? Home. Where are you going? I'm going for a cruise around NJ for fun... nice day and all.. blah blah. Got any thing I need to know about in the car like guns or any weapons? No. (THEY ARE IN THE TRUNK!!)

The state police site on weapon/ammo transportation

 

http://www.state.nj.us/njsp/about/fire_trans.html

 

are guidelines, SOME of which are based on NJ law.

 

The following guidelines are provided...

 

Specifically:

 

...If the vehicle does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm and ammunition must be in a locked container other than the vehicle's glove compartment or console..

 

The way I interpret that, the guidelines say the ammo and the firearm can be in the SAME locked container.

 

The *LAW* starts here (2C:39-1):

 

http://lis.njleg.state.nj.us/cgi-bin/om_isapi.dll?clientID=220725&Depth=2&depth=2&expandheadings=on&headingswithhits=on&hitsperheading=on&infobase=statutes.nfo&record={1A38}&softpage=Doc_Frame_PG42

 

Regarding legal transport of firearms, the *LAW* says:

 

...All weapons being transported under paragraph (2) of subsection b., subsection e., or paragraph (1) or (3) of subsection f. of this section shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances...

 

I haven't been able to find anything in the *STATUTES* on the transportation of ammunition. Has anyone else?

 

If ammunition transportation is not specifically defined in the statutes then my interpretation is that there is NO restriction on how you transport ammo that is not "loaded" into a firearm.

Yeah I agree... the laws only pertain to guns... or guns WITH ammo. Theres nothing saying you can't ride around with 100,000 .50 BMGs in the front seat.

I haven't been able to find anything in the *STATUTES* on the transportation of ammunition. Has anyone else?

 

If ammunition transportation is not specifically defined in the statutes then my interpretation is that there is NO restriction on how you transport ammo that is not "loaded" into a firearm.

 

 

THIS is what I was saying..

 

sirsloop.. just to be clear.. i get all that you are saying and was NOT questioning you I just don't like how SOME legal bodies decide THEY feel it should be this way or that way, and put info out there IMPLYING that it is law when it is merely a suggestion!

The firearm should not be directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle. If the vehicle does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm and ammunition must be in a locked container other than the vehicle's glove compartment or console.

 

 

I think you are quoting the state police website.. but NOT the actual LAW.. again I could be wrong.. do you have a link or something..

 

N.J.S. 2C:39-6(g) All weapons being transported under paragraph(2) of subsection b., subsection e.,

As far as I can tell that says my gun must be unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case or locked in the trunk. To me that means if it's in ythe trunk it needs not be cased. If it's not in the trunk it must be in a closed and fastened case. This is so that it is not laying in your backseat for someone to see and freak out. The law is clear, but whether or not a LEO and/or judge will see it that way is another story.

 

+1. Locked trunk is the only place that "lock" is described in the NJ statues concerning firearm transportation. The Federal guideline language(locked cases, etc.) was adopted on the NJSP website but does not match the actual statutes.