Do police have microphones on them when they stop you?

 

 

Long story short, cop pulls me over, admits he didn't actually see me but gives me a speeding ticket anyway.

 

I know damn straight when I go to court he is going to deny ever saying that and it will come down to my word against his. Even though I work for the navy, a cop can NEVER be wrong so I guess I'm boned?

 

I will fight this to the end...the ONE time I'm actually NOT speeding is when I get a speeding ticket? Oh the irony

Do police have microphones on them when they stop you?

 

 

Long story short, cop pulls me over, admits he didn't actually see me but gives me a speeding ticket anyway.

 

I know damn straight when I go to court he is going to deny ever saying that and it will come down to my word against his. Even though I work for the navy, a cop can NEVER be wrong so I guess I'm boned?

 

I will fight this to the end...the ONE time I'm actually NOT speeding is when I get a speeding ticket? Oh the irony

 

as with any driving ticket they will likely try to play the "here you pay this fine you get no points" game..

 

were you HONESTLY speeding?

Do police have microphones on them when they stop you?

 

 

Long story short, cop pulls me over, admits he didn't actually see me but gives me a speeding ticket anyway.

 

I know damn straight when I go to court he is going to deny ever saying that and it will come down to my word against his. Even though I work for the navy, a cop can NEVER be wrong so I guess I'm boned?

 

I will fight this to the end...the ONE time I'm actually NOT speeding is when I get a speeding ticket? Oh the irony

 

I believe that every department has MVRs nowadays. Talk to the Records Bureau of the PD who issued the ticket and get a copy of the MVR footage for your stop. You can then present that in court.

 

as with any driving ticket they will likely try to play the "here you pay this fine you get no points" game..

 

were you HONESTLY speeding?

 

 

If anyone knows traffic on route 9 at 4:30pm in the afternoon, they could all atest it is pretty much impossible to speed, total grid lock. I was the last car to go through the traffic light (I thought this was why I was stopped) so there were easily 15 cars ahead of me and with NJ having a huge left lane hugger problem, there is no way I could have been speeding.

 

As I said, the ONE time I don't speed is when I get a ticket of driving "a silver 4 door subaru..." talk about beyond a resonable doubt huh?

Do police have microphones on them when they stop you?

 

 

Long story short, cop pulls me over, admits he didn't actually see me but gives me a speeding ticket anyway.

 

I know damn straight when I go to court he is going to deny ever saying that and it will come down to my word against his. Even though I work for the navy, a cop can NEVER be wrong so I guess I'm boned?

 

I will fight this to the end...the ONE time I'm actually NOT speeding is when I get a speeding ticket? Oh the irony

 

I believe that every department has MVRs nowadays. Talk to the Records Bureau of the PD who issued the ticket and get a copy of the MVR footage for your stop. You can then present that in court.

 

 

I will do that, thanks!

Go to your first court date and plead not guilty, or call the clerk and see if they will accept your not guilty plea over the phone and schedule your trial date. Also, while on the phone with the clerk, find out what that courts procedure is for obtaining the discovery in your case. The discovery is what the state intends to use to prosecute you. You have a right to this information. It will most likely cost you a few bucks for copies and mailing. If the officer didn't see you speeding as you say, the state will not have any evidence against you except his word. At this point a good driving record works in your favor in front of the judge. Best of luck.

Thank you for the advice e80!

 

 

Suprisingly, the police captain called me back to hear my side of the story. I appologized for getting a little heated with the dispatcher and gave my story. He was very laid back, even laughed at all of the inconsistencies, and recommended that I go to court and talk to the prosocuter. He did say he hasn't talked to the officer yet but says if everything I say is true, the charges will be dropped. Only issue is that the mircrophones in the police cars havn't worked in some time apparently, I'm afraid the cop will change his story as soon as he talks to the judge or whoever.

 

 

Makes me feel better about the situtation....

Thank you for the advice e80!

 

 

Only issue is that the mircrophones in the police cars havn't worked in some time apparently, I'm afraid the cop will change his story as soon as he talks to the judge or whoever.

 

 

Makes me feel better about the situtation....

 

 

How convenient.....

Depends on a lot of factors. Bergen County has EVERY marked unit with a camera system in it by order of the County Prosecutor. My County doesnt..some departments do, most dont, mainly because of costs. With the caveat that i would have NO PROBLEM with the systems, we have enough trouble getting vehicles replaced as it is, without adding another $5K per unit. Now if the towen would Can the Stupid GPS systems and replace them with the cameras I;d be happy as all get out. This far the State has stayed out of it, mainly because if they make it a requirement, then they are on the hook for the costs. 18 years ago we were the last sizeable town in the county carrying revolvers, the Prosecutor finally put his foot down and ordered the Chief to change over to Semis, and the Prosecutor's Office paid a good portion of the cost.

 

Sounds like the guy was an idiot Spec, pure and simple, and I hope things go ok for you.

Do police have microphones on them when they stop you?

 

 

Long story short, cop pulls me over, admits he didn't actually see me but gives me a speeding ticket anyway.

 

I know damn straight when I go to court he is going to deny ever saying that and it will come down to my word against his. Even though I work for the navy, a cop can NEVER be wrong so I guess I'm boned?

 

I will fight this to the end...the ONE time I'm actually NOT speeding is when I get a speeding ticket? Oh the irony

 

I believe that every department has MVRs nowadays. Talk to the Records Bureau of the PD who issued the ticket and get a copy of the MVR footage for your stop. You can then present that in court.

 

 

I doubt the prosecution would be willing to provide you with anything you could use in your defense. They do have to provide you with what they intend to use against you though, upon your request.

Do police have microphones on them when they stop you?

 

 

Long story short, cop pulls me over, admits he didn't actually see me but gives me a speeding ticket anyway.

 

I know damn straight when I go to court he is going to deny ever saying that and it will come down to my word against his. Even though I work for the navy, a cop can NEVER be wrong so I guess I'm boned?

 

I will fight this to the end...the ONE time I'm actually NOT speeding is when I get a speeding ticket? Oh the irony

 

http://www.motorists.org/

 

These guys used to have some good free information - it may only be available if you pay now. Basically, you need to fight this as if you were a lawyer. Request discovery in writing - not verbally, including all video and audio evidence that may exist, copies of the officer's notes, etc. Document your requests (keep copies of your letters) send all corresponding Return Receipt.

 

as with any driving ticket they will likely try to play the "here you pay this fine you get no points" game..

 

were you HONESTLY speeding?

 

 

If anyone knows traffic on route 9 at 4:30pm in the afternoon, they could all atest it is pretty much impossible to speed, total grid lock. I was the last car to go through the traffic light (I thought this was why I was stopped) so there were easily 15 cars ahead of me and with NJ having a huge left lane hugger problem, there is no way I could have been speeding.

 

As I said, the ONE time I don't speed is when I get a ticket of driving "a silver 4 door subaru..." talk about beyond a resonable doubt huh?

 

I take rt 9 home from sayrevlle to lakewood every day around that time and see at least 4 people pulled over and wonder to myself..what in gods name could they possibly have done to be pulled over in this chaos. Howell is the worst. The cops have beefed up Chargers with a K-9 unit following them everyday.

the microphone works fine... thats BS.

 

check this out. They f ing lie through their teeth to cover their own ass. Happens time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time again.

 

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/418746_video.html

 

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/201 ... entio.html

Ok, the Seattle one is relevant....but WTF does the Danziger bridge thing have to do with Videotaping Stops???

I've never done any of this before (100% clean record) so excuse the probably lame questions, is the court date listed the date where I must present my case to the judge / question the clocking officer and the officer that actually pulled me over / person who ID'd me? Or is the first court date to talk to the DA, discuss a plea bargin (not going to happen btw), and set a trial date for sometime later?

 

 

I just want to be prepared with all of my evidence / questions if the day listed on my ticket is the day I must actually defend myself in court. I look forward to making this guy purger himself on the stand...

I've never done any of this before (100% clean record) so excuse the probably lame questions, is the court date listed the date where I must present my case to the judge / question the clocking officer and the officer that actually pulled me over / person who ID'd me? Or is the first court date to talk to the DA, discuss a plea bargin (not going to happen btw), and set a trial date for sometime later?

 

I just want to be prepared with all of my evidence / questions if the day listed on my ticket is the day I must actually defend myself in court. I look forward to making this guy purger himself on the stand...

 

If they have not provided you with discovery - or provided it 2 days before trial (it is a trial...) then you have the right to ask for and demand a continuance because the PROSECUTOR FAILED TO REPLY TO YOUR WRITTEN REQUEST FOR DISCOVERY in a timely fashion. Do not buckle. Do NOT let your legal process be railroaded. Explain to the judge that you either "just" received discovery or have not YET received discovery. The judge will just set a new date. If the prosecutor continues to fail to provide discovery then you should notify the judge.

 

By the way... Perjure from the Latin perjurare "to swear falsely"

The bridge one just goes to show that cops cover for cops!

The bridge one just goes to show that cops cover for cops!

And everybody involved is going to jail, or already is IN jail for that.

I've never done any of this before (100% clean record) so excuse the probably lame questions, is the court date listed the date where I must present my case to the judge / question the clocking officer and the officer that actually pulled me over / person who ID'd me? Or is the first court date to talk to the DA, discuss a plea bargin (not going to happen btw), and set a trial date for sometime later?

 

 

I just want to be prepared with all of my evidence / questions if the day listed on my ticket is the day I must actually defend myself in court. I look forward to making this guy purger himself on the stand...

 

The prosecutor will not be prepared to try your case on your first appearance. I doubt you would be able to obtain your discovery by then anyway. The judge will only read off your charges and accept your not guilty plea and advise you to seek legal council. Kind of a waste of your time.

I've never done any of this before (100% clean record) so excuse the probably lame questions, is the court date listed the date where I must present my case to the judge / question the clocking officer and the officer that actually pulled me over / person who ID'd me? Or is the first court date to talk to the DA, discuss a plea bargin (not going to happen btw), and set a trial date for sometime later?

 

 

I just want to be prepared with all of my evidence / questions if the day listed on my ticket is the day I must actually defend myself in court. I look forward to making this guy purger himself on the stand...

 

The prosecutor will not be prepared to try your case on your first appearance. I doubt you would be able to obtain your discovery by then anyway. The judge will only read off your charges and accept your not guilty plea and advise you to seek legal council. Kind of a waste of your time.

 

 

Ok, that's what I figured would happen. The police captain advised me to go in for this court date to talk to him and see if he will just drop the charges due to insufficent evidence beyond a reasonable doubt (don't you also have to prove I was the one driving the car along with IDing the car itself?)

 

If they have not provided you with discovery - or provided it 2 days before trial (it is a trial...) then you have the right to ask for and demand a continuance because the PROSECUTOR FAILED TO REPLY TO YOUR WRITTEN REQUEST FOR DISCOVERY in a timely fashion. Do not buckle. Do NOT let your legal process be railroaded. Explain to the judge that you either "just" received discovery or have not YET received discovery. The judge will just set a new date. If the prosecutor continues to fail to provide discovery then you should notify the judge.

 

By the way... Perjure from the Latin perjurare "to swear falsely"

 

 

Yep, I will be requesting discovery and demand to face my accusor (his firefighter buddy that apparently ID'd me since the cop couldn't do that...already illegal there )

 

And yes, I know my spelling is terriable especially when it comes to latin words and such

I've never done any of this before (100% clean record) so excuse the probably lame questions, is the court date listed the date where I must present my case to the judge / question the clocking officer and the officer that actually pulled me over / person who ID'd me? Or is the first court date to talk to the DA, discuss a plea bargin (not going to happen btw), and set a trial date for sometime later?

 

 

I just want to be prepared with all of my evidence / questions if the day listed on my ticket is the day I must actually defend myself in court. I look forward to making this guy purger himself on the stand...

 

The prosecutor will not be prepared to try your case on your first appearance. I doubt you would be able to obtain your discovery by then anyway. The judge will only read off your charges and accept your not guilty plea and advise you to seek legal council. Kind of a waste of your time.

 

First Appearance isnt FOR trial it's what would be considered an "arraignment" in a more serious case. first Appearance is just for you to formally Plead Guilty or Not Guilty. MOST courts want you to call several days before the Appearance date if you are pleading Not Guilty.

I've never done any of this before (100% clean record) so excuse the probably lame questions, is the court date listed the date where I must present my case to the judge / question the clocking officer and the officer that actually pulled me over / person who ID'd me? Or is the first court date to talk to the DA, discuss a plea bargin (not going to happen btw), and set a trial date for sometime later?

 

 

I just want to be prepared with all of my evidence / questions if the day listed on my ticket is the day I must actually defend myself in court. I look forward to making this guy purger himself on the stand...

 

The prosecutor will not be prepared to try your case on your first appearance. I doubt you would be able to obtain your discovery by then anyway. The judge will only read off your charges and accept your not guilty plea and advise you to seek legal council. Kind of a waste of your time.

 

First Appearance isnt FOR trial it's what would be considered an "arraignment" in a more serious case. first Appearance is just for you to formally Plead Guilty or Not Guilty. MOST courts want you to call several days before the Appearance date if you are pleading Not Guilty.

 

 

Yea, thats what I said.

I've never done any of this before (100% clean record) so excuse the probably lame questions, is the court date listed the date where I must present my case to the judge / question the clocking officer and the officer that actually pulled me over / person who ID'd me? Or is the first court date to talk to the DA, discuss a plea bargin (not going to happen btw), and set a trial date for sometime later?

 

 

I just want to be prepared with all of my evidence / questions if the day listed on my ticket is the day I must actually defend myself in court. I look forward to making this guy purger himself on the stand...

 

The prosecutor will not be prepared to try your case on your first appearance. I doubt you would be able to obtain your discovery by then anyway. The judge will only read off your charges and accept your not guilty plea and advise you to seek legal council. Kind of a waste of your time.

 

First Appearance isnt FOR trial it's what would be considered an "arraignment" in a more serious case. first Appearance is just for you to formally Plead Guilty or Not Guilty. MOST courts want you to call several days before the Appearance date if you are pleading Not Guilty.

 

 

Yea, thats what I said.

But it has nothing to do with "Prepared" it has everything to do with procedure.

Yea, thats what I said.

But it has nothing to do with "Prepared" it has everything to do with procedure.

Now if the town would Can the Stupid GPS systems and replace them with the cameras I;d be happy as all get out.

Hahahahaha. Pipes has dispatch ever called asking if a squad car has been stolen because it's showing up someplace strange? One of our officers told me the GPS said the car was in the Long Island Sound.

Now if the town would Can the Stupid GPS systems and replace them with the cameras I;d be happy as all get out.

Hahahahaha. Pipes has dispatch ever called asking if a squad car has been stolen because it's showing up someplace strange? One of our officers told me the GPS said the car was in the Long Island Sound.

 

We have a car that's been off the coast of Somalia for the past couple weeks.

Now if the town would Can the Stupid GPS systems and replace them with the cameras I;d be happy as all get out.

Hahahahaha. Pipes has dispatch ever called asking if a squad car has been stolen because it's showing up someplace strange? One of our officers told me the GPS said the car was in the Long Island Sound.

 

Nope..but my town is crying poor, yet they have one of those things IN EVERY TOWN VEHICLE, and pay IIRC $25 per vehicle per Month service charge. The PD alone has over 50 vehicles between marked, unmarked and specialty vehicles. Fire has 6 Engines, 3 Trucks, 5 pickups, a van, and 6 SUV's roughly, and there's probably another 30-40 other assorted vehicles. lets round it out to 100 Vehicles..thats $2500 per month ($30K/Year) in monitoring fees, even for the ones that spend most of their time parked like the backup FD vehicles and PD vehicles.