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FTE with 40-9 Conv. Barrel - G23

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Hey Guys,

 

I have a couple hundred rounds through a new G23. Last nite, I finally tried out my Lone Wolf 40-9 Conv. Barrel. Just for facts to be straight, had not shot the G23 in a while, it was completely clean and lubed, and I did not fire any .40 S&W last nite beforehand... Anyway, loaded the Conv. Barrel and Glock factory 9MM mags... First magazine, 15 flawless, accurate rounds. Second magazine, after maybe the 6th or 7th round I had a FTE... the empty shell casing stuck in the ejection port, preventing the slide from completing its action. Like I said, I think I have a little over 200 rds of .40 S&W through the Glock, and never a speck of a problem.

 

Anyway the FTE scared the shtuff outta me because I've never had a problem before. But I racked the casing out, and then just to extra careful I tapped, racked again and ejected the next live round just for safe measure, and after that I was fine and went through a few more mags of 9MM.

 

I'm just asking a few opinions and looking for confirmation, this is not a big deal and occasionally to be expected, right? I think I remember reading you have to expect a problem here and there because the extractor and/or ejector isn't really made for the 9MM round... and thats why you would only use the conversion barrel and ammo/mags at the range because they aren't 100% and you use the original caliber / equiptment for HD. So this is no big deal, right?

 

And let me say the Lone Wolf 40-9 barrel was redonkulously accurate, I shot very well, and I like the 9mm savings. I am considering seriously adding a Lone Wolf .357 SIG Barrel as well... But I have no experience with .357 SIG... I hear that I can use the Glock .40 Magazines tho, and it's got a nice punch without too much more recoil that I would experience with a .45 ACP... What are your thoughts on .357 SIG? I was raised a .40 guy, and I bought the 40-0 Barrel for both SHTF/emergency flexibility and primarily ammo savings at the range, but the .357 SIG would be more for simple shooting fun and to have a single gun that fired all 3 calibers... Any thoughts?

You hit it on the nose. You MUST change the extractor, ejector. the extractor button. and I would have to look up the part# but maybe the recoil spring.

 

Don't mess with it. If you need help PM me.

 

Frank BTW I'm up North.

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Old School,

 

Just want to throw out there, I have no plans on using the 40-9 Barrel and G17 mags (shooting 9MM rounds) anywhere but the firing range... The only reason I did this was because it was explained to me I could save lots of money shooting 9MM at the range when I'm shooting purely for fun, and keep the factory 40 S&W setup for reliability and power in HD situations...

 

I'm keeping the gun as a .40 S&W G23 , I just wanted to plink with 9MM occasionally..

 

Is that okay to do without the parts changing? The Lone Wolf Dist. ppl said this is fine, no problems.

 

Thanks for your info again sir, much appreciated. (Like I said I am/was considering even adding the .357 SIG conversion barrel. For One hundred bucks, and the same Glock mags, I can have the .357 experience. Seems a LOT CHEAPER and HELL OF A LOT LESS HASSEL :) than getting another permit to buy a Sig :)

You hit it on the nose. You MUST change the extractor, ejector. the extractor button. and I would have to look up the part# but maybe the recoil spring.

 

Don't mess with it. If you need help PM me.

 

Frank BTW I'm up North.

Is this every time the barrel is switched from .40 to 9mm or the replacement parts will work for both calibers?

 

I ask because I am getting a G22 w/ 9mm replacement barrel w/ G17 mags.

You hit it on the nose. You MUST change the extractor, ejector. the extractor button. and I would have to look up the part# but maybe the recoil spring.

 

Don't mess with it. If you need help PM me.

 

Frank BTW I'm up North.

Is this every time the barrel is switched from .40 to 9mm or the replacement parts will work for both calibers?

 

I ask because I am getting a G22 w/ 9mm replacement barrel w/ G17 mags.

 

The extractors are different as are the other parts. Use 9mm parts for 9mm.

Use .40 parts for .40. If you want it to work every time. Properly kitted I would use a conversion for SD. No problem. Radek get intouch as I have a parts order long over due to go in if you want to do a PROPER conversion.

Yup, I want it to work every time for SD.

 

Unfortunately, I am not in possession of my G22 (paid for) ... till I get my PP's. Expected in about 4 weeks.

 

I lost your phone # when I deleted old PM's. Please PM me again with your phone #, so we can talk about the needed replacement parts you could order.

I shoot .357 Auto in my G24. The reason I bought the conversion was because I acquired several cases of the ammo at a cheap price. I love it.

 

Excuse my ignorance but what is a G24?

I shoot .357 Auto in my G24. The reason I bought the conversion was because I acquired several cases of the ammo at a cheap price. I love it.

 

Excuse my ignorance but what is a G24?

 

Its a 40sw long slide.

 

http://www.impactguns.com/store/glock24.html

 

 

Right!!! Now I remember. I saw a guy with one at a match at Shongum. Yes I was in awe.

I coulndt find it on the Glock website, So maybe they dont make them anymore? :think:

Hey Guys,

 

I have a couple hundred rounds through a new G23. Last nite, I finally tried out my Lone Wolf 40-9 Conv. Barrel. Just for facts to be straight, had not shot the G23 in a while, it was completely clean and lubed, and I did not fire any .40 S&W last nite beforehand... Anyway, loaded the Conv. Barrel and Glock factory 9MM mags... First magazine, 15 flawless, accurate rounds. Second magazine, after maybe the 6th or 7th round I had a FTE... the empty shell casing stuck in the ejection port, preventing the slide from completing its action.

 

Anyway the FTE scared the shtuff outta me because I've never had a problem before. But I racked the casing out, and then just to extra careful I tapped, racked again and ejected the next live round just for safe measure, and after that I was fine and went through a few more mags of 9MM.

 

And let me say the Lone Wolf 40-9 barrel was redonkulously accurate, I shot very well, and I like the 9mm savings.

 

40-9 Barrel and G17 mags (shooting 9MM rounds)

 

Was the ammo Blazer Aluminum by chance? I ask this as my Glock 22's sole FTE was a Blazer Aluminum Round with a defective case. (with 40-9 barrel)

See attached photo for defective Blazer case. I sent it back to CCI and they sent me Blazer Brass. 1 FTE out of 3-4k with 40-9 conversion barrel.

Do you have a solid grip on the pistol? From what I understand not having a firm grip can cause FTE's.

Are your mags G19 or G17? If you have a G23 you should be using G19 magazines and not G17 magazines.

 

Recoil spring is the same. Extractor is different, but is only 20 bucks. Ejector is 10.

  • 2 years later...

sorry to resurect an old thread

 

i have the 40-9 barrel for my g24...took it to the range today and used a18lb recoil spring, it seamed to help but is still fte/stovepipe every few rounds or so, first mag was great but as i went on i couldnt get through a full mag without at least1 or more fte ...im using kci mags, 124gr aguila 9mm fmj

i have a 13lb recoil spring i got as well, should i try that or is it too light?

from what ive read is the lwd 40-9 barrel is offset so changing the ejector is not required, im assuming its the heavy long slide of the g24 causing this

i have not tried the +p+ fix from the lwd website (cant find any at reasonable prices)

If it's happening every few rounds it's possible there isn't enough gusto to properly cycle the heavier slide. I have no experience with the heavier slide, but physics tells me you need more force or less resistance. Personally I'd try the less resistance path first. Use a high quality oil, such as Slip 2000 EWL, put in the lighter spring, and use standard velocity 9mm.

I would start by trying real Glock OEM mags, not the aftermarket Korean ones. In my experience the $$ you save on them is not worth the aggravation they bring.

 

Glocks typically have weak ejection and rely on spring pressure on the follower in the mag to assist their anemic ejection.

 

Don't believe it, try this:

 

Load 1 round, remove the mag and fire. How does the brass eject? I bet it falls straight down the mag well or trickles out to the side.

 

Another option is to install the correct extractor, bearing, and extractor spring.

 

Good luck!

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