Anybody ever see these things???

 

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You basically take a MN, cut the thing up, and pay the ATF $200. Boom... bolt action 7.62x54R pistol!! Badassssssssss!

 

Question is, can you even fire the thing with regular surplus ammo or do you have to shoot handloads with less powder? I know there is a lot of speculation about half loads blowing up guns etc etc. I'm concerned about a full load blowing up my wrist and burning my eye brows off!! :shock:

Can't watch the video through that link - doesn't allow embedding.

 

Anyway - Wouldn't that be classified as a SBR?

Yes it is a SBR, but you just pay the $200 ATF tax stamp and you're all set. If you take it outta state you gotta fill out some ATF form. IDK... fun item to have cause nobody else will.

here we go... a dude that made one and shoots full surplus loads outta it...

 

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.p ... 202&page=3

 

Ive shot the M44 from my hip... I guess it wouldn't be much worse than that?

You forget that we don't live in a free state. Tax stamp or no, that is a no, no in the PRNJ.

 

As for firing it with full power loads - sure why not? Back in the late '70's early '80's I was pretty heavily involved in handgun metallic silhouette. The unlimited class evolved because people did crazy stuff like your cut-down MN. Actually the usual victim of choice was the Remington XP100. I used to have one chambered in .308 Winchester. While my competition loads weren't full-house factory, I had shot them through it. I've had worse kicking guns. One fellow, early on, chambered an XP in .458 Winchester Magnum and shot it. When asked why, he replied, "Because everybody told me it wasn't possible."

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

wtf... where's it say no SBRs in NJ?

mfers!

 

There are no NJ-legal SBR's - NJ makes all SBR/SBS illegal in 2C:39-3b, which says "Any person who knowingly has in his possession any sawed-off shotgun is guilty of a crime of the third degree".

 

So, what does NJ consider a "sawed-off shotgun"? According to 2C:39-1o, it's any shotgun having a barrel or barrels of less than 18", or a rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches, or any firearm made from a rifle or shotgun with an overall length of under 26"

 

So yes, your legally-registered M4 SBR is illegal in NJ, because it's a sawed-off shotgun. The only exception to this is found in 2C:39-3g - which is member of military or LE on or going to/from duty, and possession is duly authorized.

You can "saw it off" to 16" of barrel length and 26" overall with no problems.

 

About as much fun as you can have in NJ.