Source: http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/08/post_180.html

 

Published: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 7:13 PM Updated: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 7:14 PM

 

 

Newton man points gun at workers attempting to repossess his truck

 

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Lester Grube made a poor decision. Hopefully the prosecutor has mercy on him. He could have shot someone's eye out.

Lester Grube made a poor decision. Hopefully the prosecutor has mercy on him. He could have shot someone's eye out.

 

Lester Grube made a poor decision. Hopefully the prosecutor has mercy on him. He could have shot someone's eye out.

 

epic win!

Who cares if its a bb gun. I have a 1911 bb gun thats DAMN real looking, and easily could pass for a .22 conversion. Im sure that repo man was sharting a brick when the dude pulled it.

Source: http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/08/post_180.html

 

 

Newton man points gun at workers attempting to repossess his truck

 

 

Lester Grube threatened the tow truck drivers with a .177 BB handgun while they were looking for the truck in the driveway of Grube

BB Guns are considered firearms in NJ (Stupid but true) so it's reasonable.

in NJ a bb gun is a firearm... plan and simple black and white. The guy deserves to go to jail regardless for actin afool. Maybe he should have gotten rid of the car and gotten something he can afford?

I guess what I was trying to imply, is how harsh they make a BB gun out to be. Yes in NJ it's considered a firearm, but if you look at the title of the article and then read the story, things don't add up, and they are just furthering the anti-gun sentiment.

instead of the title being:

 

Newton man points gun at workers attempting to repossess his truck

 

why not:

 

Newton man points a plastic BB gun at workers attempting to repossess his truck

Yes it's harsh but the law states that it's a gun so the topic is 100% correct. If it was an airsoft gun, it would be misleading because they're not classified as firearms, but a .177 cal BB gun is. Who said it was plastic? BB guns are made out of metal. So are some airsoft guns.

Yes it's harsh but the law states that it's a gun so the topic is 100% correct. If it was an airsoft gun, it would be misleading because they're not classified as firearms, but a .177 cal BB gun is. Who said it was plastic? BB guns are made out of metal. So are some airsoft guns.

 

 

Only in NJ.

If he pointed a plastic toy that looked like a gun at the guy I still say he should be arrested. If its not, it should be criminal to threaten someone in that way.... and over what... getting your car towed cause YOU didn't pay? The dude is a loser with no brain. No wonder he got repo'd! He's too busy flauntin his bb gun around.

If he pointed a plastic toy that looked like a gun at the guy I still say he should be arrested. If its not, it should be criminal to threaten someone in that way.... and over what... getting your car towed cause YOU didn't pay? The dude is a loser with no brain. No wonder he got repo'd! He's too busy flauntin his bb gun around.

 

yeah your viewing it from the stand point of the incident, I was viewing it from the reporters side of the incident. I'm in no way sticking up for the guy who did it, but merely pointing out that the inaccuracy of the title of the article, had this been a freedom loving state that article would have been far fetched.

I'm still not seeing your point. It's a bb gun which is classified as a gun in NJ, so everything is 100% correct. What's the inaccuracy?

I'm still not seeing your point. It's a bb gun which is classified as a gun in NJ, so everything is 100% correct. What's the inaccuracy?

 

I've been shot by a bb gun before, and it caused a small red mark on my hand.. I think there is a common sense distinction between a BB gun and a real gun. No matter how NJ views a BB gun, it's still a BB gun.

True but you have to take a few things into consideration.

 

1) The point I've been making all along which is that in NJ, BB Guns are classified as Firearms

2) He still pointed it at them with the intent to do harm. It would have been just as bad if it was a real gun. It would have been just as bad if it was an airsoft gun.

3) This is liberal NJ - most people can't tell if it's a bb gun or a regular gun. You also don't have a picture of the gun he used so you can't say it doesn't look like a real gun. They make BB pistols that look like regular guns now.

 

While I of course don't agree with what the guy did, the reporter is still 100% correct in the reporting. It's not "OMG ANTI GUN" reporting, it's simple fact reporting.

ok so you come across an article on NJ.com and read Newton man pulls gun on repoman, what comes to mind when reading that title? what if you just read the titles on NJ.com to get a jist of whats going down in NJ? Now you have some people out there thinking that someone with a gun (with no distinction) threatened a repoman. I understand what your saying, I guess what im trying to say isn't coming along clearly.. so you win

I'm still not seeing your point. It's a bb gun which is classified as a gun in NJ, so everything is 100% correct. What's the inaccuracy?

 

I've been shot by a bb gun before, and it caused a small red mark on my hand.. I think there is a common sense distinction between a BB gun and a real gun. No matter how NJ views a BB gun, it's still a BB gun.

 

 

Ive been hit by a BB Gun before ...it ricocheted off a rock, went through my jeans, and broke skin just barely into my leg. 1000fps+ bb is basically a bullet. Pointing a BB Gun straight at someones face is no joke... I wouldn't be laughin it one was pointed at me.

I'm still not seeing your point. It's a bb gun which is classified as a gun in NJ, so everything is 100% correct. What's the inaccuracy?

 

I've been shot by a bb gun before, and it caused a small red mark on my hand.. I think there is a common sense distinction between a BB gun and a real gun. No matter how NJ views a BB gun, it's still a BB gun.

 

 

Ive been hit by a BB Gun before ...it ricocheted off a rock, went through my jeans, and broke skin just barely into my leg. 1000fps+ bb is basically a bullet. Pointing a BB Gun straight at someones face is no joke... I wouldn't be laughin it one was pointed at me.

 

your lucky to be alive

I think I know what GoNRA is getting at. The fact is the media feeds off of fear. The more shocking the title...the better for them. Which reads "scarier"? Points gun or points plastic BB gun? Nuff said...media sux...

your lucky to be alive

 

 

LOL

I think I know what GoNRA is getting at. The fact is the media feeds off of fear. The more shocking the title...the better for them. Which reads "scarier"? Points gun or points plastic BB gun? Nuff said...media sux...

Media twisting facts to sell papers/gets hits on a website for advertising revenue. It's exagerated, but that's the news business.

ehhh... forget about it...

I think I know what GoNRA is getting at. The fact is the media feeds off of fear. The more shocking the title...the better for them. Which reads "scarier"? Points gun or points plastic BB gun? Nuff said...media sux...

Media twisting facts to sell papers/gets hits on a website for advertising revenue. It's exagerated, but that's the news business.

 

Personally I don't see it as twisting facts. It's a BB Gun which in this state is classified as a gun.... so it's correct. And they do make real guns out of plastic (polymer).

Heh. Those are definitely Airsoft guns though.

I'm still not seeing your point. It's a bb gun which is classified as a gun in NJ, so everything is 100% correct. What's the inaccuracy?

 

I've been shot by a bb gun before, and it caused a small red mark on my hand.. I think there is a common sense distinction between a BB gun and a real gun. No matter how NJ views a BB gun, it's still a BB gun.

 

 

Yes but it is made clear in the story. Headlines are not meant to tell the whole story, they are meant to get you to read the story.

This individual has no common sense pointing a fake gun at the wrong person can get you shot.