My in laws are set to move in around November. Construction is going on now. I have verizon fios, and i am using their router. No problems what so ever. so before the put up sheet rock, i am wiring their addition to 2 spots. one for computer, one for PS3. (yes, they have one because they want access to my movie collection ) i only have one spot left on the router, so i unplug my PS3, and use that plug to plug into my other linksys router. Set it up no problem. Now i plan to put 2 cables from the linksys, to their addition. i ran one tonight, and i am having problems. i am using cat6 cable, and connectors. in their addition, i am using the wall jacks. never used them before, but they seem simple. i brought my laptop out to connect to the wall jack, and nothing. i have retried making the connections at least 4 times. i know the router works, so it must be in my wiring. I know the colors are all lined up right. I have done this before. I just never used one of the wall jacks. Any tricks im missing? sorry to ramble

Try doing them backwards. If someone doesn't answer you, I'll have an answer for you tomorrow from my brother. Theres a trick to the homedepot wall connectors and I just don't remember what my brother always told me.

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Do you have to physically wire every connector or are they simple plug into the back and plug into the front? Could you have nicked the wires when you pulled them thru?

 

This site has a good step by step guide.. http://www.handymanhowto.com/2009/01/19/how-to-install-an-ethernet-jack-for-a-home-network/

 

However for one of the best forums on the site for anything computer related click this link and join this forum http://www.dslreports.com/forums/all.

 

I have used that for years and it's saved my butt many times. You can try the networking area or especially the Home Repair/Improvement area. There are so many people there with knowledge of pulling wiring and electrical its unreal.

My in laws are set to move in around November. Construction is going on now. I have verizon fios, and i am using their router. No problems what so ever. so before the put up sheet rock, i am wiring their addition to 2 spots. one for computer, one for PS3. (yes, they have one because they want access to my movie collection ) i only have one spot left on the router, so i unplug my PS3, and use that plug to plug into my other linksys router. Set it up no problem. Now i plan to put 2 cables from the linksys, to their addition. i ran one tonight, and i am having problems. i am using cat6 cable, and connectors. in their addition, i am using the wall jacks. never used them before, but they seem simple. i brought my laptop out to connect to the wall jack, and nothing. i have retried making the connections at least 4 times. i know the router works, so it must be in my wiring. I know the colors are all lined up right. I have done this before. I just never used one of the wall jacks. Any tricks im missing? sorry to ramble

 

Are you saying that you have a Verizon fios modem connected to a router and another router connected to that router? If the WAN IP of your linksys router is on the same subnet as the IPs it provides on the lan side via DHCP, it can't work. A router cannot NAT like that. For example It cannot route 192.168.1.x(a lan side client IP delivered via DHCP) to it's WAN side IP of 192.168.1.x it obtained from it's upstream router.

 

To test the cabling, if you computer has LEDs on the NIC port, do you get both a green link light and a yellow activity light? If you go to a DOS prompt and type IPCONFIG does it just say "media disconnected" or does it give you a bullshit IP like 169.254.51.x?

I set up the linksys router having a cat cable coming form a LAN on the fios router to a LAN in on the linksys. I changed the IP of the linksys to 192.168.1.2 so it would not be in conflict. My ps3 is working fine off of the linksys, so i know its good. I am using the standard wire color code. I just cant see why its not working.

For trouble shooting purpose I would pull out a wall jack crimp a RJ connector to it and test with the laptop. This will at least verify the cable run vs the wall jack itself.

 

Maybe I missed it but you are saying that if you took a short network cable and connected it to the linksys it reaches the internet but not if you connect through your runs to the addition?

 

It seems like I remember that a network socket should not match an RJ pinout. Might be a crossover. Maybe not. In any case, for example, the orange wire has to meet the orange wire and so on If you wire the socket the same as the male connector this will not happen. Each wire color has to meet the same color in a socket.

I set up the linksys router having a cat cable coming form a LAN on the fios router to a LAN in on the linksys. I changed the IP of the linksys to 192.168.1.2 so it would not be in conflict. My ps3 is working fine off of the linksys, so i know its good. I am using the standard wire color code. I just cant see why its not working.

 

FIOS LAN PORT-->WAN PORT(LINKSYS)LAN PORT --> LAPTOP/PS3 Yes?

 

You're saying that you set the WAN port of the Linksys to 192.168.1.2 and it's delivering DHCP on the lan side to 192.168.1.x ? This configuration will not route packets but you say the PS3 works, so there must be something different.

 

Eliminate the in wall cables and try it with some known good patch cables right at the FIOS modem. Does it work?

 

You still didn't say whether or not the computer says "cable disconnected" or if it just didn't obtain a good IP address.

 

Some Linksys routers will just behave as a switch when no wan port is enabled. If you move the cable from the FIOS modem to one of the lan ports on the linksys does it work?

Go spend the $15 on a real switch and eliminate the 2nd router.

MB for the win

Go spend the $15 on a real switch and eliminate the 2nd router.

 

 

That was my next step, just wanted to see it wasn't the wiring first.

just setup wireless... problem solved.

just setup wireless... problem solved.

 

Wireless is fine for the computer, but when you have a 1.5 TB hard drive pushing movies to the PS3, it lags pretty good. Hard wired is much better.

I think I had this same problem.

 

I think Malusa is right on with both routers trying to serve DHCP.

 

I wish I could remember what I did to get the Linksys to stop being a router. I know I had to do it physically from the control panel, and not through their installation cd crap.

 

Turn off DHCP, and I think I had to put in a "random" IP... (192.168.1.151). I don't know why, but the .2 didnt work.

 

Not how it is supposed to work, but its unlikely your going to have that many things on your network, so it probably wont conflict.

 

Edit... Try plugging in the cable from the fios router, to one of the switch ports on the linksys.

 

Do you have your fios set up as COAX/MOCA, or did they run a cat 5 wire for you? (If it's moca, the lan port on the router might be disabled)

 

Does the lan port on the fios router work with only one computer plugged into it?

I did disable DHCP. I also made the IP separate from the FIOS. When i plug the laptop into the linksys where i have it setup, it works fine, so it has to be something with the cable. Ill re try it tonight. It was late and i was aggravated . You know how that goes

I did disable DHCP. I also made the IP separate from the FIOS. When i plug the laptop into the linksys where i have it setup, it works fine, so it has to be something with the cable. Ill re try it tonight. It was late and i was aggravated . You know how that goes

 

OK.. at least we are making progress :-P

 

Just make sure you have the same on each side T-568A or B, you dont want one of each because then it will be a cross over cable.

 

Did you use the little plastic key thing, or do you have a punch down tool?

I have them both set to A i believe. Whatever the standard is. With white orange starting on left , ending in solid brown. I am using the the plastic tool.

i forgot to mention that i am testing it with a cat 5 cable i believe, but i dont think that makes a difference

i forgot to mention that i am testing it with a cat 5 cable i believe, but i dont think that makes a difference

 

 

Jut remember, like I said before, the socket is not like wiring two ends of a cable. It is in effect a splice. Color needs to meet like color.

i forgot to mention that i am testing it with a cat 5 cable i believe, but i dont think that makes a difference

 

 

Jut remember, like I said before, the socket is not like wiring two ends of a cable. It is in effect a splice. Color needs to meet like color.

 

 

I am wiring the socket as per the colors on the socket. It says to use "A' to peel the sticker off, and those colors would be shown.

i forgot to mention that i am testing it with a cat 5 cable i believe, but i dont think that makes a difference

 

 

Jut remember, like I said before, the socket is not like wiring two ends of a cable. It is in effect a splice. Color needs to meet like color.

 

 

I am wiring the socket as per the colors on the socket. It says to use "A' to peel the sticker off, and those colors would be shown.

 

 

If you crimp a connector to the wire in the wall does that work?

Jut remember, like I said before, the socket is not like wiring two ends of a cable. It is in effect a splice. Color needs to meet like color.

 

 

I am wiring the socket as per the colors on the socket. It says to use "A' to peel the sticker off, and those colors would be shown.

 

 

If you crimp a connector to the wire in the wall does that work?

 

 

Going to try that tonight after work.

Okay, also take a known working cable and check the ports you have the cables that run to the extention and through the walls, just to make sure that isn't also the issue.

You can use both A's or Both B's, it doesnt matter because like bulpup said, its just a splice, but dont put one on one side, and one on the other.

 

No chance of crimps/breaks in the wires when you ran them? Didn't run them by any flourescent lights/cb radios/ staples breaking the insulation?

You can use both A's or Both B's, it doesnt matter because like bulpup said, its just a splice, but dont put one on one side, and one on the other.

 

No chance of crimps/breaks in the wires when you ran them? Didn't run them by any flourescent lights/cb radios/ staples breaking the insulation?

 

 

I am actually on vacation for the first time in a long time, so i wil have time to check it today. Definitely wiring them the same

You need a cable tester.

 

I have a Fluke and a cheap one. The fluke will tell you exactly where in the line the problem is...the other one will just verify all lines through.

 

My cheapy is a chinese knockoff that I got in China for about $5. Tripplite makes one that is 30 bucks or so. Maybe someone has one you could borrow.

 

wraenking - Where are you located?

 

I'm sure there's somebody in the area with a network tester and then you can knock that off your list. It's usually a problem when you punch the connections on the jack but if you have a break in even one of the 8 wires, it won't give you a valid connection.

 

CAT6 is a little overkill in my opinion as I've run Gbit over 5e with no problems.

 

If you're anywhere near Union County send me a PM.

def no reason to need to use cat6... if you run 5e in the walls make sure its plenum rated tho

def no reason to need to use cat6... if you run 5e in the walls make sure its plenum rated tho

 

Why? Even if you have some panned return ducts, it's unlikely that the entire wall system is a plenum. Typically it's one or two stud cavities, max.

 

Do you think your PVC plumbing piping is plenum rated?

def no reason to need to use cat6... if you run 5e in the walls make sure its plenum rated tho

 

Why? Even if you have some panned return ducts, it's unlikely that the entire wall system is a plenum. Typically it's one or two stud cavities, max.

 

Do you think your PVC plumbing piping is plenum rated?

Dan,

 

Don't argue. You're just encouraging him.