Can anyone tell the the big difference, I.E. accuracy and does it wear the gun out faster, also can it be fired safely from a Kimber and a Beretta 92fs. Thank you

For health nuts.... FMJ/TMJ. I dont shoot pure lead.

 

Lead is cheaper... however does tend to foul up your gun more. correct me if I am wrong, I am not a glock person, nor do I reload lead... but I believe reading somewhere where you should not load lead ammo down glocks.

Yup, fouls the polygonal (sp?) rifling. I think some of the HK's have the same issue. Not sure

From what I've read, you shouldn't shoot lead through a Glock (or reloads for that matter, but some would argue that).

 

Totally safe to shoot lead through your Kimber or M9. You'll have to use a bore brush more often than FMJ but at least you don't have to deal with the slightly more stubborn copper fouling.

From what I've read, you shouldn't shoot lead through a Glock (or reloads for that matter, but some would argue that).

 

Totally safe to shoot lead through your Kimber or M9. You'll have to use a bore brush more often than FMJ but at least you don't have to deal with the slightly more stubborn copper fouling.

 

not to thread jack, but why wouldn't you be able to shoot reloads out of glock?!?!! Or more or less they want to discourage people from reloading as they could be using Lead.

Or more or less they want to discourage people from reloading as they could be using Lead.

 

That's probably why, yeah.

 

I've also heard the partially unsupported case could kB! on reloads due to weakened brass... but if I had a glock I'd still shoot reloaded FMJ-- you'd probably have to shoot and reload the same brass many times before it became weak enough to explode. And that would go for any handgun, fully supported or not.

 

It's interesting to note that the manual for my Springer not only recommends against cocked and locked, but also keeping it loaded (rounds in the mag). Um, that's the whole point of a 1911, isn't it?? Methinks there's a lot of CUYA going on.

#1 Never shoot lead in GLOCKs. I'm the cheapest bastard in the world and I don't do it!

#2 I have 20,000 reloaded rounds through my GLOCKs and no problem.

#3 Do you realize the bolt action rifles DO NOT have fully supported chambers.

That is correct, the HK P7 series should not have lead used in it as it is a true gas operated pistol.

 

Heres my thoughts on the subject:

 

Well, my opinion is this. I think hard cast lead is easier on a barrel but more of a pain to clean. I honstly think if you shoot enough of either to really affect a barrel, you shoot so much that a barrel is insignificant to you. I guess maybe because im getting to be an old fart Ive actually started to worry about things like handling lead. So for my reloads I have gone to copper plated bullets from Ranier. The lead is entirely encapsulated. It also helps if you shoot indoors so you dont have to worry so much about airborne lead vapors and such. The hard cast bullets I used to use were from CP Bullet. I never really noticed any difference in accuracy but the type of shooting I do is more speed than accuracy. With that being said these bullets from Ranier, well....Im getting one ragged holes at 10 yds for 10 shots with them! I think the plated bullets are a good inbetween. They are a little softer than FMJ, better to handle than lead, and pretty close to lead cast as far as price. It only cost me 112 for 1000 for .45 acp. I hope this helps answer your question.

Can anyone tell the the big difference, I.E. accuracy and does it wear the gun out faster, also can it be fired safely from a Kimber and a Beretta 92fs. Thank you

 

I haven't heard of anyone ever wearing out a pistol barrel. I think both types of rounds are safe.

 

but why wouldn't you be able to shoot reloads out of glock?!?!!

 

I would shoot both in either pistol. I've shot lead reloads in Glock's, SigP226 and a USP45 with success.

Swaged lead bullets will the most accurate because there are no voids in swaged bullets. Hard cast bullets or FMJs can have voids. Lead will also have the nice side effect of never wearing your barrell out. I've heard over 100,000+ rounds on one barrel with no wear. Match life with a 1911 and FMJ is 5,000. If you load properly(Proper crimp, sizing, and most importantly velocity matched to hardness), you will not get more lead fouling than you would copper fouling but lead is a bit smokier. Glocks theoretically will foul fast with lead rounds but you CAN reload for them with FMJs (and when montana golds are so cheap, why not?!). I reload for my glock 19.

OK, I guess I'll climb on here. The point has been touched on, but not really highlighted: If you shoot cast lead bullets, match the bullet hardness to the application.

 

Swaged bullets may have no voids, but they are only made of pure lead and therefore the worst offenders when it comes to leading your bore - unless they are loaded to very low velocities.

 

Frank, I know your the Glockmeister, but I have to disagree with you here - as would Roger at Kings Cast Bullets who has 1000's of rounds of cast bullets through his Glocks. Again, it depends on hardness and how much of the bullet is deposited in the rifling. With a polygonal bore lead can build up in the "corners" and create overpressure problems. Bullets of the correct hardness aren't going to lead the bore to any great degree.

 

The reloading prohibition can be found in any and all gun manufacturers manuals. There is no control over reloaded ammo, as there is with factory (SAAMI), so they will not warrant the weapon if reloads have been used. Yes, it is very much a CYA type of thing - with lawyers, rather than engineers, writing the owner's manuals, is it any wonder?

 

Shane, I too used CP bullets for years and they were great, both from a function standpoint and "accuracywise". I wish Jon was still in the bullet business. It was great being able to pick them up, locally, at the point of manufacture. I believe I still have a 1000 or so in my garage, just waiting for me to get back into reloading. I used to monitor the lead in my body by regular doctor visits, but we were shooting 6 times a month indoors and that was a lot of exposure.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

For Glocks it is simply a matter of cleaning your barrel often. The lead builds up in the Glock barrel's polygonal rifling and can cause increased pressures. If you clean your barrel every few hundred rounds, it is not really a consideration. For liability reasons, companies like Glock need to assume that some jackass is going to shoot his gun and never clean it. This would be dangerous if he shot lead bullets, hence the wanring.

I don't reload/shoot pure lead any more for health reasons (i.e. my lead levels were 3X the OSHA limit), but when I did there was no problem in my Glocks. I never used lead in my HK P7 because I didn't want lead clogging up the gas system on it.

From what I've read, you shouldn't shoot lead through a Glock (or reloads for that matter, but some would argue that).

 

Totally safe to shoot lead through your Kimber or M9. You'll have to use a bore brush more often than FMJ but at least you don't have to deal with the slightly more stubborn copper fouling.

 

Please!!!! :roll: I have 4000 rounds of Better Bullets lead reloads through my Glock 22 without any leading or problems.

 

Don't believe everything you read.

 

Any yes, it has the factory Glock barrel.