Wojo, as much as it pains me to say this, if 7.62X39 is your fancy, An AK is a better choice. Its simply notoriously unreliable for feeding in the AR platform. As for 6.8 or X39, my answer is neither! :twisted:

500 rounds of 7.62x39 - $109.99 at Cope's...

 

 

Try 179.99 for 1k at AIM significantly cheaper

Oh, and not to mention, your money doesn't go to a company who sided with the Clinton Admin and said "no honest man needs a magazine over 10 rounds" Yeah sure now they make an AR and 17 round magazine pistols, now that it is easy and popular to do so. But when the chips were down, we saw their true colors.

 

I know, I know. But my dad is a Ruger man and I guess I'm following in his footsteps. But no SKS! I'll pass, again.

 

Ray,

 

There is an auction ending soon on GunBroker. It's a nice wood stock and a good price.

 

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =187312925

 

Added to my watchlist. But rust on the end of the barrel? Someone didn't clean her after shooting commie corrisive ammo.

500 rounds of 7.62x39 - $109.99 at Cope's...

 

 

Try 179.99 for 1k at AIM significantly cheaper

 

Ooo! Thanks for the heads up!

Wojo, as much as it pains me to say this, if 7.62X39 is your fancy, An AK is a better choice. Its simply notoriously unreliable for feeding in the AR platform. As for 6.8 or X39, my answer is neither! :twisted:

I won't fault the likes of others, but personally I just can't fathom owning an AK. Every group I loathe and have trained to do battle against, embraces the AK. Having an SKS in my safe is bad enough and it is my only commie weapon and I won't allow another one. The SKS was an impulsive buy when I saw creates of them with accessories for $125 & I couldn't pass it up. I think the Garands and AR's taunt the SKS in my safe when I am not watching. So for now, it is neither.

 

I sold an Armalite AR10-T 24" with an Eagle Arms flat top 20" upper because the ammo was just too expensive to shoot. Too heavy for the field (although I shot several whitetails with it) and you can't use it for shooting in service rifle competitions, so I sold it. I'd love to have a .30 AR, but until dollars start flowing in big way, practicality will take precedence.

I won't fault the likes of others, but personally I just can't fathom owning an AK. Every group I loathe and have trained to do battle against, embraces the AK. Having an SKS in my safe is bad enough and it is my only commie weapon and I won't allow another one. The SKS was an impulsive buy when I saw creates of them with accessories for $125 & I couldn't pass it up. I think the Garands and AR's taunt the SKS in my safe when I am not watching. So for now, it is neither.

I agree with you.

I won't fault the likes of others, but personally I just can't fathom owning an AK. Every group I loathe and have trained to do battle against, embraces the AK. Having an SKS in my safe is bad enough and it is my only commie weapon and I won't allow another one.

 

So I'm also assuming...

 

You won't own a Charter Arms revolver because of the Son of Sam

You won't own any 1903 Pocket, BAR, Thompson, Browning Auto 5, because those were used by notorious gangsters?

You won't own a Mercedes, because that's what Hitler loved (and drove)

...Or a Volkswagen, because the company was founded by a Nazi Trade Union

 

The AK is a gun. It is an inanimate object made of wood, metal, and plastic. It has no thoughts, feelings, or political affiliation. It is embraced by "the enemy" because it cheap, easy to use, inexpensive, reliable and effective. It's a piece of moving metal parts that uses gunpowder to fire a small chunk of lead and copper at a target, just like any other gun, and nothing more.

 

Further, the "AKs" people own here in the USA, have no connection at all to the illicit arms trade, and are entirely built and sold lawfully for sporting and defense purposes to legitimate buyers. Everything from the Maadi's and MAK-90's to the Saigas and PAPs.

 

The gun was designed by Mikhail Kalashnikov during and shortly after World War 2, with direct input from Russian veterans who were outgunned by German soldiers on the east front. Russian soldiers, commies, that, as you may remember, helped us defeat the Nazis. Just because a bunch of unsavory characters happen to use them these days is no reason to attribute terrible things to the gun. Your way of thinking is how gun bans start.

 

"Blame the Nazi Germans for making me become a gun designer, I always wanted to construct agriculture machinery." - Mikhail Kalashnikov

Its his personal choice, and he's not broadstroking the fact that people SHOULDN'T possess AKs-- just that his safe is commie free (for the most part). I partially feel the same way. It took me a couple sunburns to finally give the shemagh a shot. It took me, even as one the guys who helped teach/apply the SOP regarding local customs to the grunts, to apply their customs of respect myself. Do I harbor some ill will at AKs? Yea, definitely. Will I ever own one? Maybe (doubtful though). Do I care that others would bet their lives and fanboyism on them? No, its a free country and let them do whatever they wish.

Read my opening statement again please. But since you asked...

 

So I'm also assuming...

 

You won't own a Charter Arms revolver because of the Son of Sam - I just wouldn't own a Charter Arms period

You won't own any 1903 Pocket, BAR, Thompson, Browning Auto 5, because those were used by notorious gangsters? I'd love to own all of these American classics. Even though I don't know what a 03 Pocket is...sounds cool though

You won't own a Mercedes, because that's what Hitler loved (and drove) - I think MB's are over rated and over priced and generally don't care to associate with the majority of people that flaunt them.

...Or a Volkswagen, because the company was founded by a Nazi Trade Union - VW's...see my Avatar, frigging POS hippe wagons. My vegan anti-US brother loves them :roll:

And no, I won't own most of the other 3rd world firearms you mentioned. I am an American first and foremost. I do my best to buy American (gets harder everyday) and have the freedom to spend my money where and how I want. I hope you spend your money how you want. Honestly, I really don't care. I drive Fords, Chevy's and my last foreign car was a Land Rover. I currently own Triumph (since '81) and Harley Davidson (since '99) Motorcycles...see a pattern here?

 

I'm a Cold War Veteran and continue to deal with terrorism and counter terrorism issues. When we train, we typically say, "if they are holding an AK, they ain't on our side."

 

I have friends that own AK's. I even let them come in the front door of my house. And if are nice, I'll offer some water, maybe even a beer.

 

Really dude, relax about my personal choices. Life is too short for you to worry about me being a Red Blooded American. Carry On.

 

Oops forgot to add: I studied Russian History in college and was stationed in Alaska and was exposed to all sorts of Russian culture. And no I couldn't see Russia from where I was like Palin. I'm pretty well versed in WW2 and have family that jumped on D-Day. I'll take the Ruskie women, the rest you can have. Let me leave you with this, my grandfather who was 82nd AB, was captured by the Germans and escaped twice (but beaten). When the Russian's liberated him, they stole his watch which the German's allowed him to keep even after all his antics. Don't try to sell me on Russian products.

You won't own a Charter Arms revolver because of the Son of Sam - I just wouldn't own a Charter Arms period

 

I agree, and I own one!

You won't own a Charter Arms revolver because of the Son of Sam - I just wouldn't own a Charter Arms period

 

I agree, and I own one!

 

I knew I'd draw a reaction out of that one... I really just don't know enough about them to put them on any wish list but carried away typing. It's Friday Night fights...come on down. I see it coming now, the landslide of Saiga owners and everyone else trying to sell me on something that doesn't feel right to me. Kinda like tofu turkey or eating humus or embracing various pride days. I'm a square, I'll admit it.

So I'm also assuming...

 

You won't own a Charter Arms revolver because of the Son of Sam

You won't own any 1903 Pocket, BAR, Thompson, Browning Auto 5, because those were used by notorious gangsters?

You won't own a Mercedes, because that's what Hitler loved (and drove)

...Or a Volkswagen, because the company was founded by a Nazi Trade Union

 

.....Rant Rant Rant....

 

 

Take a deep breath buddy.... We're all friends here 8-)

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Not sure if this was discussed already and I missed it, but, I didn't realize the Mini30 in 7.62x39 had 15 round magazines available. Was going thru the CDNN catalog and saw this:[attachment=0]Mini30_15rnd.jpg[/attachment]

That's a pretty good find right there.

Good find Pete! She's added to my list.

Upon further research, it seems that those may not be Ruger made magazines... the only 15 rounders I could find were made by some company called National Magazine - they don't seem to have the best reputation for reliability. So, you should probably only buy one or two to test out and see if they're worthy of buying more.

I still like the 6.8, but it's more expensive than 556! Which is why i want a cheaper carbine. Thanks again Peter.